On 25.08.2012 11:56, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 25.08.2012 09:44, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Andreas Säger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Most of this office suite runs very well without Java.
>>
>> Of course "most" does not include the database component.
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html
>>
>> "Java is required for complete OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org)
>> functionality. Java is mainly required for the HSQLDB database engine
>> (used by our database product Base) and to make use of accessibility
>> and assistive technologies. Furthermore some wizards rely on Java
>> technology"
>>
>> FC
>>
>
> Even the database component works well without Java.
> Connect to some non-JDBC database, add queries and forms. For reporting you
> can still use the Calc
> component.
> The most important core functionality is still there, otherwise we could not
> print serial letters
> without Java.
> The Java based "wizards" are totally counterproductive anyway. They hide more
> functionality than
> they are able to offer.
> Mind that Java is just a major annoyance for many computer users (and for
> Microsoft of course). I
> ran OOo 2.x without Java for many years and I am a comparatively heavy user
> of Base.
Just a few, brief remarks:
* Java adds important functionality to AOO, like it or not. There are
extensions, components
written in Java that are helpful, like it or not. The AOO scirpting
framework is written in
Java, hence removing Java removes the ability to add and use scripting
languages besides Basic
and Python. Ad database: how can you run HSQL without Java, which is the
default base engine AOO
has been using for many years now?
Removing Java would cripple AOO bad times (for other reasons as well).
* Problem at hand, some Java installation on Mac, which causes problems to
one person so far.
Shooting in the dark and pointing to untested Javas for MacOSX is not a
solution, but adds to
the grief. So, as long as there is no correct error/problem description,
please do not point to
"solutions" that are none. Java on MacOSX has been *very* special from the
day that Apple
tweaked it to get it into its UI and operating system the way Apple deemed
to be the "correct"
way. Until Sun/Oracle has not completely implemented all aspects of that
special Apple Java
support, and tested it and made a 32-bit version available to it, I regard
any "solution"
pointing to OpenJDK as adding confusion and problems to the table.
And a question ad MacOSX port of AOO:
* One question I would have is: why is the MacOSX version of AOO compiled for
32-bit only? Are
there any problems compiling and distributing a 64-bit version for MacOSX,
now that the newer
versions seem to be 64-bit ?
---rony