Rob makes two points on my comments that I want to clarify: 1. Concerning the handling of security vulnerability reports, that is not the same as "the community" and it has not stopped the growing of the PPMC. It is the case that the size of the PPMC and the degree of inexperience were concerns to the ASF security team. There was no evidence of untrustworthiness. The creation of a small ooo-security group was prudent and security@ i.a.o insisted on that. I also don't expect there to be any security@ objections to whatever PMC is formed. I would expect an explosion of ooo-security participation to raise eyebrows at any time.
2. I did not claim that the PPMC could not invite already-established committers to come aboard the PPMC. As far as I know, it has simply not done so. It is the case, as Rob points out, that there is also nothing to prevent a committer invitation also including a PPMC invitation. For the reasons Rob mentions, that hasn't been done lately. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 17:59 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What is a good Project Management Committee? On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: [ ... ] > I am, nevertheless, uncomfortable with the suggestion that the current PPMC > "can't be considered as having the trust of the community." I see no > evidence of that. > You might review the discussions related to the handling of security vulnerability reports. The self-selected PPMC was considered not sufficiently trustworthy to handle these. [ ... ] > > There might have been more additional committers on the PPMC, but the PPMC > has stopped inviting new committers to also be on the PPMC. I don't recall > any individual originally invited to be a committer to have later been > invited to become a PPMC member.> Your statement could easily be misunderstood. The PPMC did not "stop inviting" new PPMC members. What happened is that we realized the bar was too high to make new contributors both PPMC and Committer at once, and that it would be faster/easier to bring new contributors in initially as Committers, e.g., for translators who need access to Pootle. There is nothing that prevents a committer from also becoming a PPMC member. [ ... ]
