On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:37 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <orc...@apache.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Rob,
>>>> 
>>>> I recently took a look at 
>>>> <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html> to see if I 
>>>> could derive that list from the Roster.
>>>> 
>>>> What gave me pause is that the list is apparently maintained in XML.  I 
>>>> could not find anywhere that MarkDown is used.  Is that correct?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Correct.  It is XML. It used to require that I check out the whole
>>> directory, update the XML, run an ant script to generate the HTML and
>>> then check in both the XML and HTML.  This is much simplified by the
>>> CMS which does the template generation behind the scenes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I could still mechanically derive the XML elements that are used now, 
>>>> although it is a bit more complicated than search and replace on a CSV of 
>>>> an extract of the roster.  If I were to do that, I would also indicate who 
>>>> is on the PPMC.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure we need to maintain that "status file" once we graduate.
>>> I think it is more of a podling tracking thing. So it might be
>> 
>> Yes, it is for active podlings only. No need to update it once
>> graduated, though it does need to be completed before graduation.
>> 
>> The other file that needs to be updated by podlings is podlings.xml.
>> 
>> Note that
>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo
>> 
>> is created automatically from the SVN authz file (where podling
>> committers are listed) plus LDAP groups.
>> 
>>> simplest if we just manually update it for now.  But longer term it
>>> would be good to be able to generate a page for the project website
>>> from the Roster.   The ODF Toolkit has an XSLTRunner component that
>>> could be used for this.
>> 
>> Not sure that's necessary. You could just link to the appropriate
>> sections in the above file.
>> 
> 
> Is there any easy way to track PMC membership?  Maybe that be derived
> from the authz for the eventual /pmc/openoffice tree?    Eventually we
> want an easy way to generate a roster that lists committers but also
> identifies PMC members.

Sebb answered, but sometimes examples are needed. PMCs have authz as well. Here 
is the page for the POI PMC:

http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#poi-pmc

Regards,
Dave

> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>>> -Rob
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 17:41
>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: New committer: Chen ZuoJun
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer
>>>>> Chen ZuoJun, zjchen@ apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> The list of all current podling committers is at:
>>>>> <http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo>.
>>>> 
>>>> And one other place:  
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html
>>>> 
>>>> That page is part of the IPMC's tracking of podling status and feeds
>>>> into their "Status of the Clutch" report:
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
>>>> 
>>>> Some may recall that we had a reporter use the "status of the clutch"
>>>> report to claim that the project was not growing.  That was when we
>>>> were not updating the report.  Since that is the official IPMC view of
>>>> the podlings, it is important that we keep this information
>>>> up-to-date, until the project graduates.
>>>> 
>>>> I was updating this status page whenever a new committer was voted in.
>>>> It would be great if someone else could take this over now.
>>>> 
>>>> When a new committer is added, the status file needs to be updated in
>>>> two places.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Added as a News item.  Automation depends on the wording, so don't
>>>> be clever.  Just follow the examples there.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) Added in the list of committers.
>>>> 
>>>> This can most easily be edited via the Apache CMS.
>>>> 
>>>> [ ... ]
>>>> 

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