On 11/2/12 9:46 AM, jan iversen wrote:
> Thanks for offering your help, I will definitively come back to that.
> 
> Just one question, is there a design document or something where I can read
> how the new makefile concept is going to work ?

maybe this helps you to get started

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort

and all the related links on the right

Juergen

> 
> Jan.
> 
> On 2 November 2012 09:26, Andre Fischer <awf....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 01.11.2012 18:31, jan iversen wrote:
>>
>>> you See below please.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 November 2012 18:18, Andre Fischer <awf....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 01.11.2012 17:57, jan iversen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  See below please.
>>>>>
>>>>> THANKS for your VERY informative answer, it helped me a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was of the simple idea, that we pursued a simple build process made up
>>>>> of
>>>>> gnuMake and an addon to gather for the shortcoming of gnumake in respect
>>>>> of
>>>>> cascaded makefiles.
>>>>>
>>>>>  We are in the process of migrating from dmake to GNU make.
>>>> When that is finished then we will have essentially one single makefile.
>>>>   Well, there will be one top level makefile that includes all the other
>>>> makefiles.  But there will not one make process that starts other makes
>>>> in
>>>> subprocesses.  That would be evil, or so I have been told, see
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/****wiki/Build_System_Analysis<http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Build_System_Analysis>
>>>> <htt**p://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Build_System_Analysis<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_System_Analysis>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am in the process of changing the l10n process. Currently it runs on one
>>> makefile that searches all directories, I want to change that to a target
>>> in every local makefile (build.lst).
>>>
>>
>> I am aware of that and am glad that you follow this approach.  I am
>> convinced that among a lot of other improvements, we could  make the
>> localization process a lot faster by
>> a) using make (dmake or GNU make) for controlling what to do when and
>> b) by integrating it into the build process to update the pootle data from
>> time to time.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Can I attach myself to your progress, or would you suggest that I attach
>>> my
>>> development to the current build process. my timeline is somewhat around
>>> new year.
>>>
>>
>> Conversion of Apache OpenOffice from dmake to gbuild is going very slow at
>> the moment.  I am afraid that you will have work with the current build
>> process.  But I am willing to help.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I hope to see your presentation on video later, due to personal budget
>>>>> restriction (dont we all have that) I cannot participate.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sorry to hear that, I would have liked to meet you.
>>>>
>>>>  Well if you come to FOSDEM, we can have a long chat. My problem is that
>>> I
>>> am currently "only" a contributor so that ticket alone is 600,- EUR.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know what you mean.  And I will think about FOSDEM.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am also prepared for google/skype videochats.
>>>
>>
>> That is good to know.  Maybe after ApacheCon.
>>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
> 

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