On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > I think a monthly FAQ on the policies for this list would be useful. >
Like an automated "administrivia" post? > As one of the three moderators of this list, I just received the > first-seen moderation-request for an honest-to-goodness spam of > the Nigerian money-laundering scam sort. > > Most of the moderation requests that the list robot sends to my > inbox are for unsubscribed or not-yet-subscribed posters. There Most of what I see are posts by users who are subscribed, but are sending from a different email address than their normal one. > is a way to let the post through, with the option of enabling all > future posts as well, but it doesn't grant a subscription. That > takes the usual ritual. No one is subscribed automatically. Sometimes > moderation can take several hours depending on when moderators are > awake and reading their mail. (Reading mail while asleep is discouraged.) > I give moderation requests first-priority in my inbox. > I do the same. > I suppose the FAQ could talk about that. > Is that really a question that users are asking? And frequently? But it might be a good FAQ "How to Moderate" for the PPMC FAQ section of the website. > The FAQ should point out that all posts are archived and as a matter > of policy, posts are not deleted and I am not sure a moderator can do it. > The FAQ could point out about access via GMane too. > These are good things. Maybe just a webpage/markdown on mailing lists in general. We have the start of one already: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html It could easily be expanded. We could then link to it in a monthly administrivia post. In particular, some of the info (like using GMane or the archives) should be easy findable without needing to subscribe to the list. > Likewise, banning users is not taken lightly (or done easily). Unless > an user turns into a spam source or goes off into some sort of > off-topic-for-everything-at-all message-strafing attack (and serious > offensive speech after cautioning), the idea is for list users to work > out controversies among themselves and clean up our own street. > > Any more thoughts about what a FAQ should contain beside basic logistics > and what the scope of subject-matter for the list is? > I've only seen one question that I'd consider "frequent" and that is how to unsubscribe. But I don't think there is much we can do to make that not be the most-asked question. > As for etiquette, I would go so far as to link to a nice treatment > provided by Italo Vignoli at <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette>, > with minimal patches with regard to difference in subject matter and > other details that apply to this list. > Also worth looking at the Apache mailing list guidelines: http://www.apache.org/dev/contrib-email-tips.html > - Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hagar Delest [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:48 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Forum outage > > The only action needed here is just to stop replying this topic! > So please let this post be the last one. > > Hagar > > > Le mar. 04 oct. 2011 11:10:46 CEST, floris v <[email protected]> a écrit : > >> Op 4-10-2011 6:25, Dennis E. Hamilton schreef: >>> And then farther down in the same message, the question Robert Holtman >>> asked was >>> >>> "Again, could you please expand on your opinion?" >>> >>> When Andreas objected to a characterization of forums (not exactly in a >>> nice way). >>> He responded to that also. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Larry Gusaas [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 20:32 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Forum outage >>> >>> On 2011-10-03 9:23 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: >>>> Errr...I didn't ask any questions. >>> Yes you did. You asked "Could you please expand on your objection to >>> mailing lists?" You >>> received a very clear response to that question which you then denigrated >>> by accusing the >>> author of "ranting. >>> >> +1. Some forums have the advantage that you can add users to an ignore list. >> It'd be great to have that possibility here as well. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
