Agreed that the developers should always have the user perspective in
mind. If I may say so, that's where they often failed in the past. There
are still several long-standing feature/enhancement requests about stuff
that would really make life better for heavy users that were handled by
somebody who apparently doesn't even understand what they are about so
that exasperated (professional) users who put effort in explaining why
those enhancements are important feel they're being made fun of. One
such request is about returning the cursor to the last position before a
Replace all.
I'd also like to remind all of you that OOo isn't 100 % compatible with
ODF - recently somebody in the forum asked about highlighting all text
with a comment attached, as in MS Word. It appears that this is already
part of the ODF definition by OASIS, but so far it hasn't been
implemented in OOo. How can we complain about Microsoft not properly
supporting an ISO standard if the developers of OOo themselves, some of
them also active in OASIS, don't properly support it themselves?
Peter aka floris v
Op 18-1-2012 0:29, Terry schreef:
Rob mentioned that he would like a user's perspective. As a user, I prefer
usability over adherence to some dogma.
Looking at the issue pragmatically, the ASF licence, as I understand it, means
that Apache OpenOffice has the best chance of promoting the ODF as a standard
because it provides commercial entities with an incentive to collaborate. The
same commercial realities apply when weighing up practicability against
philosophy. Reality trumps theory any day.
Thirdly, I do not favour heavy-handed censorship in this or any other medium
for exchanging opinions.
- Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 4:39 AM
Subject: RE: OOo, ODF 1.2 extended format and Word: is the possibility to open
OOo generated file by word ed as bug?
1. I agree that this is something to try at the Plugfest.
2. It would be unfortunate were Microsoft ODF 1.2 support to require the
attribute (thus rejecting existing OO.o and LO documents that don't have it)
or to produce it (thus causing the down-level problem for themselves in their
existing ODF 1.1 consumers).
- Dennis
My understanding is that Microsoft intends to report on provisions for ODF in
the next version of Microsoft Office at the time of the Brussels plugfest. That
may not be current information, it is just the only information I've seen.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 09:19
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: OOo, ODF 1.2 extended format and Word: is the possibility to open
OOo generated file by word ed as bug?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rob, I agree completely with your sentiment concerning slavish adherence to
a specification when that adherence breaks interoperability in unfortunate and
costly (support-wise) ways.
[ ... ]
It would be good to know what Microsoft will do with their next
version of Office as well, e.g., whether they will have this same
issue. I'd hate to make a change, and then have next version of
Office suddenly require that attribute and reject docs otherwise.
Maybe something to try at the Brussels Plugfest.
[ ... ]
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