Rick McGuire wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Rony G. Flatscher
> <rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
>> While working on moving BSF4Rexx to the 4.0 APIs and at the same time
>> keeping it backwardly compatible with Rexx scripts using it, I have been
>> running into problems for which the cause is not clear to me (and debugging
>> doesn't really help as the JVM takes over the debugging and I cannot get
>> into rexx.exe or BSF4Rexx.dll when exceptions occur, just a log-file created
>> by the JVM).
>> For backward compatibilty it is important to have the functions
>> RxFuncQuery(), RxFuncLoad() remaining operational (at least not causing
>> runtime errors) such that the following code can get executed:
>> if rxFuncQuery("BSF") = 1 then   /* BSF() support not loaded yet ? */
>> do
>>    call rxFuncAdd "BsfLoadFuncs", "BSF4Rexx", "BsfLoadFuncs"
>>    call BsfLoadFuncs
>>    call BsfLoadJava
>> end
>> There is a list of thirteen such functions.
>> Question 1: Is there a way to get to the RexxInterpreter instance pointer or
>> RexxThreadContext pointer (which would allow for finding its RexxInterpreter
>> instance) from within an external classic Rexx function?
> No there is not.  However, if you just add BsfLoadFuncs() to the list
> of function defined in the BSF4Rexx() package and make it a NOP when
> called, then things will appear to behave the same way. This is the
> same approach that's been taken by packages in the interpreter itself
> that have been converted to the new package format.  For example, see
> what the rxsock library is doing in the interpreter build.
>> If there was such a function, then it would be possible to let
>> "BsfLoadFuncs" be implemented in the classic style, but load from the code
>> there the library containing the new typed REXX_ROUTINE functions. This
>> would allow replacing the rest of the external functions by new
>> REXX_TYPEDROUTINEs, which I would prefer over the classic style seeing how
>> easy it is to use the new 4.0 APIs.
> If you implement the suggestion I made above, this will work just
> fine.  The rxmath package is a good example.  It still has a
> registration routine, but all the functions are defined using the
> typed format.  There is no need to register special stubs.
Great, thanks for this pointer, will look it up!

>> ---
>> Currently, the classic external functions are in place and the behaviour is
>> the same as with the non-4.00 version, using RexxStart() to run the
>> programs.
>> Trying to take advantage of the new RexxCreateInterpreter() to later let
>> scripts be executed by that instance, the following phenomenon occurs:
>> Calling an external classic Rexx function BsfQueryRegisteredFunctions() will
>> return a stem with the registered external functions. This external function
>> uses RexxVariablePool() to create the stem entries, but has no effect
>> anymore. Removing an unrelated "RexxCreateInterpreter()" call, "fixes" the
>> behaviour, i.e. the stem values are created in the caller's context using
>> the RexxVariablePool, as it did before.
> There can only be one interpreter instance in control of a thread at a
> given time.  If you call RexxCreateInterpreter in the context of one
> of those callouts, then all API calls will be handled by the thread
> context you just created that pushed all of the other stuff down.
This problem should go away when using the new typed routine.

Question: How can one create/set a variable in the context of the caller?

    AFAIK one can only retrieve the existing variables in the caller's
    context, but not create/set a new one (in this case I would need to
    create a stem object and set it to the callers context variable pool
    using the supplied name for the stem).

>> Question 2: Is this an expected behaviour or a bug? If a bug, is this
>> information already sufficient to research the cause?
> This is the expected behavior.  You're creating a new context
> associated with that thread.  It is in control of all call-backs on
> that thread until the instance is terminated.  To get the non-nested
> behavior you want, you'll probably need to spin off another thread to
> create the interpreter instance and keep it alive.  Then, to access
> this instance in a nested fashion, you'll need to use
> AttachThread()/DetachThread() in pairs.
Yes, this would be the planned exploitation. Knowing the difference in
the "mechanics" this won't be a problem anymore, thanks again for the

>> ---
>> While implementing the RexxCreateInterpreter() and using the options with
>> either LOAD_REQUIRED_LIBRARY or REIGSTER_LIBRARY will cause a crash (again,
>> unfortunately without being able to get there with the VS debugger).
>> The context of this crash is as follows: Java loads BSF4Rexx (so the DLL is
>> loaded already that contains the classic external functions), a Java engine
>> uses a new jni function which calls into the DLL where
>> RexxCreateInterpreter() is executed with either one of the above options in
>> place.
>> Question 3: Is this an expected behaviour or a bug?
> A crash is never the expected behavior.  Open a bug, but you'll
> probably need to give me enough to recreate the problem.
O.K. have to get home immediately, will open a bug later.

>> Question 4: If in one RexxInterpreter instance a library is loaded, are its
>> routines visible to other RexxInstance instances as well ?
> Yes, the library packages are global to the process.
>> ---
>> Question 5: Is it possible to call a REXX_TYPED_ROUTINE from another
>> REXX_TYPED_ROUTINE or from a REXX_TYPED_METHOD in native code? If so, how?
> No, the entry points are only usable through using the Rexx runtime.
> If you wish to share code, then make the package routines be just
> stubs that forward to the appropriate routines.  The stream library
> code in the interpreter is a good model for doing something like this.
Again, thank you very much!


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