Hi Erich,
I think the breakdown is as follows:
- we have build & (sudo) make install - these are private. where you install or
whether you run rxapi or not is up to you. you might need root, or not, but you
have it, so no action
- we have the rpm and deb world - requires root, as they lead to multiuser
installs and daemon scheduling; no action, as non-root install is impossible
using the standard commands like apt-get, yum or zypper
- we have the ‘installer’ binary installers (windows nsis, macos pkg) - these
can be private or public. private should not require admin/root, including
rxapi. running a windows service always requires admin? I think it probably
does; action: make private nonshared installls ‘rootless’
- we have the ‘portable' binary installers - windows portable and linux tar.Z
files that can be expanded anywhere. no admin/root required; action: make rxapi
runs ‘rootless'
The macOS setup - with /usr/bin 'considered harmful’ for non-OS code after
recent changes, is the first one that would benefit from a rootless install -
the binaries should go into e.g. ~/Applications/ooRexx5.00/bin and rxapi could
log its pid into that if needed. A multiuser install (that enables ooRexx to be
used by all users and installs rxapi to be restarted automatically after an IPL
needs root - or a sudo install to be more specific).
So it is different things for different platforms and installer/package types,
and installation types. Let’s focus on 5.00 first, however.
best regards,
René.
> On 4 jul. 2016, at 17:18, Erich Steinböck <erich.steinbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What kind of request is this?
>
> A build - time request?
> Everything should be there to build-your-own interpreter with any prefix and
> PID file path (which is what Michael did in RFE 542)
>
> Or a run-time request? To install, I guess you have to have root, and during
> install rxapi should have been set up as a daemon with no need for anyone to
> start or stop it (except root).
>
> Or is it a packaging request? Each build package should come in two
> flavours: install and portable, the latter to be run off a directory without
> need for root? That would of course double the number of packages we have to
> build / test.
>
> Erich
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Michael Lueck <mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com
> <mailto:mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com>> wrote:
> René Jansen wrote:
> > Rony,
> >
> > thanks for this research. Some of it I remember, other more vaguely.
> >
> > So:
> >
> > 1) we drew the conclusion earlier that root is not needed
>
> "#542 Support non-root interpreter installation and execution on Unix-like
> systems"
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/542/
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/542/>
>
> We had arrived at a patch to the ooRexx source code that would allow ooRexx
> 4.2.0 to be built in a Linux Shared Web Hosting package where the user ID is
> not granted root permissions.
>
> I am thankful,
>
> --
> Michael Lueck
> Lueck Data Systems
> http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ <http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/>
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