Well, we were already planning on releasing part or all of the board
schematic, so I don't see that there would be any significant IP
issues.  We have a lot of experience with making sure that the artwork
is done right for high-quality signaling.  A fair amount of adjustment
might have to be made by our engineers if volunteers did it who are
not familiar with some of the constraints.

My boss wants to talk to his boss about it before we endorse that. 
However, there's no reason why you can't start a parallel effort, and
if there's some sort of legal problem, we may have to ignore what the
community did.  Of course, the community could do their own board and
license the chip IP from us do that we can recoup the chip design
costs (plus money to invest in the next generation).

However, volunteers are not likely to be able to afford actually
MANUFACTURING boards.

I'll let you know if this interferes with our basic intent of "selling
hardware" in some way.  The general idea is to have the software done
by volunteers, and we do the hardware.  We would share many aspects of
the hardware, but the rights to the hardware implementation would
belong to Tech Source.  The thing about the board design, though, is
that there's nothing particularly sensitive in it... I think.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:42:47 -0800, Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you think a board layout effort can begin at this point? I checked
> the mailing lists (as I am newly subscribed) and only found a mid-Dec.
> reference to gEDA
> http://lists.duskglow.com/open-graphics/2004-December/001275.html
> 
> I think it is worth beginning this process, but I have never used these
> tools. I've seen the commercial equivalents, but never spent much time
> learning them because I didn't want to waste my time learning non-free
> software. (aka soon-to-be-dead software)
> 
> Does anyone know if the free tools we have available to us are capable
> of the job? I'd love to see free tools used to design this card. So for
> the last few days I've begun the process of learning pcb (from cvs).
> 
> A lot of work could be done now couldn't it? Do you guys know which chip
> you are going to use? There has been talk of Xilinx, is there a
> currently shipping part? Things should already be possible to get in
> place: where the memory goes, where the clocks and power go, etc. The
> PCI and/or AGP connectors and all the lines off of them. The VGA or DVI
> connectors and so on. It doesn't even look like there are those standard
> connectors in the library yet. (?)
> http://www.geda.seul.org/tools/symbols/library/index.html
> 
> At any rate, there's a mountain of work there so I thought I would ask
> if there are people on this list with that kind of background. It's
> unlikely that an effort of this size has been undertaken with completely
> free software, if it has, it's probably worth investigating the issues,
> software & methods they used to collaborate this kind of unique
> development project.
> 
> For me, I could write the firmware support (u-boot, linuxbios and maybe
> openfirmware) support and do powerpc work. As time permits of course.
> 
> An annoyed ATI video card user,
> Jeff Carr
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