[For some reason, my last email appeared to be respected by the listserv.]

On 1 Aug 2005 17:14:45 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are you taking about getting IBM to help fund OGP?
>
> Yes, that was the thought, as they are pro Open Source, and have made chips 
> for the last 30 years or so.

Investing in Linux (mostly), plus a few other open source technologies
is highly profitable to IBM, because it helps them sell hardware.  But
would they consider it to be profitable to invest in another graphics
chip?  They already have some of their own.

Also, how would the community feel about the degree of corporate
control that IBM would inevitably try to wield over it?  If I were
them, I would want to make sure my investment didn't get away from me.
 But what they want and what everyone else wants may not be the same.
Yes, it could be a great opportunity to them, but would they see it
that way?

At full production, Traversal could make millions/year from
OGP-related products.  Is IBM going to care about a few million/year,
when they usually try to invest in things that make billions?

>
> As I see it, it is very differcult to tell which of these options that will 
> seam the most tempting to IBM.
>
> Option 2 would properly be very easy to get from them.

That's a charity amount, although even a small amount could be a great
PR move for them.  PR is a good thing, especially when it comes to
OSS.  :)

>
> Option 4 is indeed likely, as they have active chip fabs that produce 
> PowerPC, Cell and etc. processors, so a few million would likely be much less 
> if they were to produce them.

Again, large volumes to us are small volumes to them.  However, I
wouldn't be surprised if they gave us a deep discount on production.
So say it cost only 1 million to produce the 100k quantity.  We still
have to get what, to us, is a huge amount of money.

>
> And taken in consideration that they truely believes in Open Source, it could 
> be of interest for they servers.

IBM, like any good business, believes in what's good for business.
Trust me.  They're not into open source on principle.  I don't say
that to put them down.  It's just good business.  We give them kudos
for picking Linux, but as a company, they didn't choose it for the
same reasons we did.  What's likely is that IBM had employees who used
Linux at home, and those employees made a good business case for using
Linux, and IBM LISTENED to them, which is the impressive part.
Businesses are often slow to adapt, huge ones especially.  IBM wasn't.

> Would an option be to ask for them to make the prototypes?

It is an option for us.  :)

> What if IBM offered to help on the design instead of giving money? Would that 
> be of interest?

Maybe.  What would they help with?

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