On 8/27/05, Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:48:33 -0400
> Timothy Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > // (2) By default, any changes submitted by community members fall under 
> > this
> > //     same license.  Traversal Technology will openly publish all 
> > internally
> > //     and externally-provided modifications to this work under this same
> > //     license.  Traversal Technology may opt to not publish IP that may
> > //     or may not be considered a derivative work (ie. a chip).
> 
> Be very carefull here. You are dealing with international
> copyright laws, thus you have to consider that there are
> versions of it out there that value the rights of an author
> a lot more than the US laws.
> 
> Especialy the above paragraph would be considered at least
> invalid if not illegal in Switzerland (and AFAIK in quite
> a lot of european countries) because one cannot hand over
> the copyright of a work _by_default_ to someone else.
> 
> You _need_ some kind of agreement (written, spoken, etc)
> that Traversal Technology is handed over at least the
> right to use the work under their license. I talk here
> about the right to use, because most european countries
> differenciate between the right to use and the ownership
> of a work. The former can be handed over quite easily while
> the latter, in some cases, cannot at all (ie stays always
> with the author).

All I care about is right to use.

> 
> IMHO the best idea is, as already mentioned a few times,
> a signing off in every patch. Ie if someone sends a patch
> it needs to contain a clause that it's copyright/right to use
> is handed over to Traversal. The case for people with SVN
> access is easier, they just have to agree when they
> get their login, that everything they commit will fall
> under the Traversal license and that they will not use any
> 3rd party code that might conflict with this license.
> 
> 
> This should not be a problem now, as those with svn
> access are still a few (iirc 4) and there haven't been
> many patches yet.

Yeah.  Ok.  If someone sends a patch to the list, they'll have to sign
off.  If they check it directly in to SVN, we need to have a
disclaimer that states the terms under which they are allowed to do
that, which involves handing "right to use" over to Traversal.

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