On 7/28/06, Hamish Marson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I see the MIT/BSD license as being detrimental to the whole concept
of OGP & Traversal. It lets a company (e.g. M$, ATI, NVidea) wait till
we've done the
work & use their money to market Traversal out & close them down. Then
drop
the product for their own. leaving us no better off than we were
before (Because
there'll be no-one left to build boards).

GPL'ed software on the other hand has all the good parts & none of the
bad.

I don't follow your reasoning.

Our software drivers will be relatively simple and straightforward,
but also useless to anyone not using our hardware.  Certainly, someone
could go through a lot of effort to clean-room the OGA design and sell
their own "compatible" chip.  Only then would having GPL drivers be of
much help to us.  But not much even then, especially since the drivers
will be MUCH simpler than the hardware.

Mind you, when I say "drivers", I'm not talking about all of mesa.
Just DRI, X11, and mesa modules required to add support for our
hardware.

I don't see how GPL'ing the drivers protects us from any of the issues
wrt hardware rip-off.


(A bit of  along stretch for an analogy, but I can't see that the
openssl authors get anything back from F5 using their code to bring in
sales of SSL offload devices. But that's the software they use). (BTW,
F5 dropped their BSD kernel in favour of Linux for v9 of their
software, so BSD isn't that appealing to companies, even when they
have a choice). (Then again, maybe they do pay, but did M$ ever pay
for their TCP/IP stack in windows? That was BSD IIRC).

OpenSSL is a software-only product.  It's possible to just rip off the
whole thing.  For us, the hardware is what matters, and the software
is just bits of code that interface with it.  From the perspective of
ATI or nVidia, we're devaluing the drivers even more than open source
already does, because we're declaring them inconsequential and
valueless.

Sorry. I just think releasing as BSD would be detrimental to
everything we're trying to do here.

I want us to be able to support BSD and any other OS.
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