On 10/21/07, Josephblack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 21/10/2007, howard parkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > First problem: not all data sheets are available online,
> > > > namely for the SIL1178 and CX25874 are hidden somewhere.
> >
> > I have these. I not sure if I should  allow them to be downloaded
> > by everyone though. While these data sheets were free and downloadable
> > from the manufacturer at some point in the past, this is no longer
> > the case, and I wonder if its worth upsetting SI/Conexant by
> > posting these.
>
> Has anyone actually asked SI/Conexant whether they mind if we post
> these for our members and prospective customers? If they are hesitant,
> I guess we could rename the the filenames (?) and with the wiki we may
> be able to set up a page that is invisible for non members.
>
> I have been wondering if  they will say  "no problem.."

This mailing list is publicly readable.  If we were going to do this
before, we definitely can't now, because if someone wanted to
procecute us for copyright violation, they could use these public
records as evidence that we knew it was at least questionable and
decided to do it anyhow.

Whatever we do, we have to do it carefully and with full permission
from the copyright holder.  If, in the end, they decide that we cannot
share the datasheet, we have a couple of options.

One is to not populate the chip and implement an alternative.
Hypothetically, we could do all of the modulation for a composite TV
signals in the digital domain in the FPGA and send it through the VGA
DAC.

Another option is to extract the essential facts from the material we
have and publish our own documentation.  This is perfectly legal,
because you cannot copyright facts, we would have acquired the chips
themselves through legal means, and since the datasheets were once
publically published, they can't expect to remove every copy of the
document that people had downloaded before they took it down or
prevent people from talking about it.  In short, we could have a wiki
page on it with all the info one needs to use it.

Note that if we were to design FPGA logic to do a TV signal encoding,
the amount of logic is small enough that we could productize it as an
ASIC and sell it in volume.  I founded the OGP on the idea of
replacing the major graphics vendors, rather than bullying them into
giving us docs.  If Connexant doesn't want to play nice, we can just
replace them.

-- 
Timothy Normand Miller
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~millerti
Open Graphics Project
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