Hello Ken,

I think #2 is probably the best answer.  Unfortunately, I don’t think there are 
existing APIs for the custom trees, as they feed into TPAC directly.  See 
EGCatLoader/Util.pm for how the data structure is built, and 
parts/org_selector.tt2 for how it gets displayed.  Basically, if a custom tree 
exists (see ‘aouct_tree’ in both files), it completely replaces the standard 
tree.

We should probably get the logic out of Util.pm and into the actor API in some 
fashion (these is an open bug* about refactoring logic bits out of the TPAC 
layer, and this seems to fit with that idea).  Designing APIs is really hard, 
but extending “open-ils.actor.org_tree.retrieve” with new options or adding a 
new “open-ils.actor.org_tree_display.retrieve” both seem reasonable to consider.

The other things you see in the C/W Mars dropdown are “copy location groups”.  
Those should probably be added subsequent to getting custom trees working.

Sincerely,
Dan

* https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1347774


Daniel Wells
Library Programmer/Analyst
Hekman Library, Calvin College
616.526.7133

From: Open-ils-dev [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ken Cox
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:38 PM
To: Evergreen Development Discussion List 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Org tree sorting and the Android app (was Re: Beta App 
Feedback)

Executive Summary

The current app allows choosing an OU in a spinner (drop-down).  It sorts this 
list lexicographically.  This sorting doesn't work well for NTLC, where the 
top-level OU "NTLC" does not appear first.

I made a change to use the sorting based on 
/osrf-gateway-v1?service=open-ils.actor&method=open-ils.actor.org_tree.retrieve 
and display the orgs in a left-justified indented list.  This works well for 
NTLC, but not for CW/MARS, which according to Kathy uses custom org unit trees.

I am missing the forest for the trees and am not sure what to do next.  Details 
below.

NTLC

For NTLC, with 21 org units, the change to display the orgs as an indented list 
works well. I end up with a spinner that looks like this:

North Texas Library Consortium
  Central Area
    [Boyce Ditto Public Library]
    John Ed Keeter Saginaw Public Library
    Justin Community Library

Note that I included [Boyce Ditto Public Library] above, but it doesn't show up 
because it's marked opac_visible=false.

CW/MARS

For CW/MARS, with 250 org units this works poorly.  My spinner looks like this 
(showing non-visible levels):

All C/W MARS Libraries
  [Central Region]
    [Anna Maria College]
      AMC Mondor-Eagen Library
    [Ashburnham]
      Ashburnham Stevens Memorial Library
...
  [Non-Members]
    [Commonwealth Catalog]
      Commonwealth Catalog Library
...
  [Western Region]
    [Adams]
      Adams Free Library

With all the visible=false intermediate hierarchy levels removed, this list is 
basically unusable:

All C/W MARS Libraries
      AMC Mondor-Eagen Library
      Ashburnham Stevens Memorial Library
  ...
      Commonwealth Catalog Library
  ...
      Adams Free Library

As Kathy said, this is quite different from what shows up in the TPAC, which is:

All C/W MARS Libraries
  Childrens Catalog
  Academic Libraries
  Young Adult
  Adams Free Library
  ...

Where to go from here?

I am considering these paths forward:

1. Display as an indented list if <= 25 OUs.  Display as a sorted flat list 
(with top-level OU on top) if > 25.
2. Look for some way to get the custom org trees into the app.
3. Add something to the libraries 
directory<https://evergreen-ils.org/directory/libraries.json> indicating how to 
display the org tree.
4. Give up and look for paid work.

Ideas appreciated!

Ken


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Kathy Lussier 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,
I think that utilizing the same sorting for OUs as the TPAC does would be ideal 
for the app as well.  As far as I can tell that is by OU-level, then by alpha 
within a level.

There is actually another bit of complexity to OU sorting in TPAC. By default, 
the OU's do sort as Geoff and Justin described. However, Evergreen also has 
something called custom org unit trees that allow sites to change the sort 
order of the library selector if the default sort doesn't exactly fit their 
needs. As an example of a simple reason sites might want to use it, if the main 
library in a multi-branch library system doesn't sort first alphabetically, you 
can use the custom org tree to force the main library to sort above the other 
branches.

In the case of C/W MARS, if the app were to use the default OU-level sort 
order, it would show an additional level in the org hierarchy that you don't 
see in TPAC because they are using the custom org unit tree to control the sort 
order. Using the default sort, users would see something like:

- All C/W MARS Libraries
-- Central Region
---Alphabetical list of systems
----Alphabetical list of branches
-- Western Region
---Alphabetical list of systems
----Alphabetical list of branches

Having said that, the default sort would accommodate the needs of a majority of 
Evergreen sites. I just wanted to point out that there is a bit more complexity 
in the tpac org unit sorting. The library selector there also includes 
publicly-visible copy location groups. I'm not sure if it's important to 
include those in the app or not, but those are what are used to configure the 
academic, children's and ya scopes in the catalogs for two of MassLNC's 
Evergreen sites.

Thanks for all of your work on this Ken!

Kathy



On 11/27/2015 02:16 PM, Geoff Sams wrote:
Now that I've had a chance to really use the app, I figured I post some 
feedback here as well.

First off, wow!  The app look and feel are really nice.  Each interface is 
snappy and seems to work pretty smoothly.  From a design stand point, I think 
this is pretty solid.

A possible bug: Jacket Images do not seem to appear for me when there are 
available images in the catalog.  It doesn't appear that either images entered 
into the system manually, or OpenLibrary.org images are appearing.

A visual preference:  When there is no image, the space for the image shows up 
white, which is at odds with the rest of the app's design elements and is a 
little jarring.  This is more opinion than anything else, take it or leave it, 
won't bother me a bit.  I'm not even sure if this one is possible to change in 
any case without changing the blank image that is used everywhere.

I think that utilizing the same sorting for OUs as the TPAC does would be ideal 
for the app as well.  As far as I can tell that is by OU-level, then by alpha 
within a level.  Currently in the app, the consortium level is at the top, then 
everything else is below that in alpha for my consortium.  We have 3 levels in 
our group: Consortium, Geographic Area, Library.  So all of the Geographic 
Areas are in the list with the Libraries and is likely going to be a source of 
confusion if it remains that way.

Everything else I feel works how I would expect it to work, and I can't really 
think of anything that I'd make a change to right off.  I'm going to keep 
toying around with things in any case.

As for Justin's comments, I tend to agree with his assessment for the most 
part.  -7 in particular would be great to have.  Some of our libraries have 
features specific to their subdomain that would be great to see included for 
their patrons.  I'm not sure what all bleeds through to the app, but if 
anything does they'd want to keep it available.  Electronic Resources are 
definitely a must, series/subject headings being links would be fantastic, and 
yes please to barcode searching.

Overall, I like the app, and I'm looking forward to being able to show it off 
to the rest of my consortium. I really appreciate all of the work that you have 
put into this app, and I look forward to continue helping test it.

Thanks,
Geoff Sams
Library Manager
Roanoke Public Library


-----Original Message-----
From: Open-ils-dev 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Justin Hopkins ??
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:40 PM
To: Evergreen Development Discussion List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Beta App Feedback

Ken,

So awesome. It feels cool just to log in and use the app. I know I speak for 
everyone when I say how much we appreciate your hard work on this.

 From my limited experience so far I'd offer the following:

[-7]: Perhaps we could use another, or expand on the .json file so that we 
could include all libraries in a given consortium/system for a more fine 
grained GPS based library suggestion
[-6]: Add the consortium level as an option for search scope
[-5]: Along the same lines, make user preferences already stored in Evergreen 
accessible/applicable (default locations, etc) or store new preferences for the 
app
[-4]: Show some indication of consortium/system/branch levels in location 
dropdowns. It's not clear what is a system and what is a branch, and could make 
it too easy to set a system as the pickup location. I'm not sure how that would 
resolve.
[-3]: Electronic resources don't display their 856 links
[-2]: Subject and series information on the record pages could be links
[-1]: A common feature among library apps, or apps where searching for books is 
a likely operation, is a barcode search - I think that would be a nice addition.

Thanks again! I'm looking forward to playing around with this and putting it 
more to use.

--
Regards,
Justin

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Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
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