May I put my vote in for git.  I use it often and it's really easy
once you learn the commands (which you can keep in a text doc like I
do).  I also want to remind everyone of the tool I mentioned in the
meeting for editing DocBook without knowing DocBook - for those who
want to use Word, you might want to take a look at this first to try
and save some time by not making others convert a Word doc to DocBook:
http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/

Thanks
Nicole C. Engard

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Soulliere, Robert
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Karen,
>
> I would like to follow up with some requests for all to help us get the ball 
> rolling.
>
> I do believe the first thing that needs to be done is to decide on where the 
> official master documentation will be parked. I think it should be a 
> repository and some DIG folks will need commit privileges to be able to push 
> (upload) documents into it.
>
> There is a subversion (SVN) repository for documentation currently at:
> http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/docs/1.6.
>
> This seemed to be the intended repository folder for the Book of Evergreen at 
> some point based on the existence of sample documents on that folder. 
> However, I am not aware of any DIG people who currently have commit access to 
> that repository. If that is the final destination for the documentation 
> either someone on the DIG needs commit access to that repository or all 
> documents will have to be committed by someone with access to that repository.
>
> Another option is GitHub. Joe Atzberger sent out an excellent tutorial on how 
> to get started by setting up a fork. I set up a fork of the Evergreen GitHub 
> repository. It seems to be a good tool to use for our purposes. The feature I 
> like about GitHub is that documents can be edited directly from GitHub using 
> a browser (kind of like google docs) which allows quick editing of typos 
> etc... without using the check-in check-out process. This will allow content 
> editors to fix problems once the documents are uploaded to the repository 
> without having to upload the document.
>
> Another option mentioned was Launchpad which is also a great tool, but I 
> thought was more useful as a bug reporting system. I have not had a chance to 
> compare GitHub and Launchpad. Could anyone give a brief "objective" 
> comparison of GitHub and Launchpad? I really don't care about what tool is 
> used as long as DIG have access to commit documents and as long as the 
> repository is universally recognized as the master authorative location for 
> documentation.
>
> Deciding on the universal location for the documentation will have several 
> benefits:
>
> 1) Everyone can get a better sense of progress by seeing tangible 
> documentation thus reducing frustration that nothing is getting done.
> 2) End users could have one location to find documentation even if it is not 
> complete or perfect.
> 3) Completed documentation could provide a guide or template for others 
> writing documentation and will help to form a universal voice for the entire 
> document.
>
> Some have suggested having a completely different repository outside of the 
> code repository for the documentation. This makes sense too. All we need is 
> to set it up and decide where this will be parked if this is the direction to 
> go in.
>
> Regarding deadlines and assignments:
>
> Assigning deadlines for completed work is a bit tricky since different DIGers 
> will be submitting work in different forms (Word, DocBook, etc...). 
> Submitting content in Word is an early stage and could require a lot more 
> work to get it into DocBook format. Moreover, some content already exists and 
> is a matter of copying and pasting while some involves creating new content.
>
> However, we do need a hard absolute deadline for everyone to indicate what 
> section people are working on by indicating such on the outline:
> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:outline
> If you know which sections you are focussing on, please write your name next 
> to the section ASAP. This will allow us to see if we need to volunteer for 
> more sections to fill in gaps. I recommend the deadline for indicating the 
> sections people are working on should be within weeks.
>
> Perhaps we need to take an inventory of capabilities in regards to DocBook 
> and repository committing and maybe indicate those abilities in the roster 
> list:
> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants
>
> This will help us to know what we can commit too. For example, I can convert 
> to DocBook and commit to a repository, but if there are very few who can do 
> those tasks I will probably need to reduce my content contributions in order 
> to focus on DocBook conversion and committing. Otherwise, there could be a 
> horrific bottleneck in our work flows.
>
> I copied the Developers list on this email for their guidance since I believe 
> they are the gatekeepers of the repositories and we need their 
> recommendations for the destination of the DocBook files. Please chime in if 
> your are a developer or repository gatekeeper and let us know the best 
> approach.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] 
> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen 
> Collier [[email protected]]
> Sent: April 23, 2010 3:39 PM
> To: Public Open-ILS documentation discussion
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-DOCUMENTATION] ***SPAM*** Documentation Hackfest & Going   
>   Forward
>
> A big thank you to everyone who attended the Documentation Interest Group 
> Hackfest at this year's conference.  We had a great turnout and lots of 
> useful discussion.  It was also great to have the chance to put faces with 
> names.
>
> I'll recap the high points as I remember them, but please chip in if I leave 
> anything out or if you have any comments or questions.
>
> In discussion we identified some goals for the group:
>
> - To put together a simple styleguide for contributors.
> - To choose a process for version control & automating production of HTML and 
> PDF documents from the DocBook files we create.  Launchpad and Github were 
> mentioned as possibilities.
> - To identify deadlines for those participants who feel they work well to 
> deadlines.
> - To communicate better with Evergreen developers in order to facilitate 
> documenting the techier side of Evergreen.
> - To identify "teams" of participants based on type of contribution and on 
> content area of interest.  By type of contribution we mean content production 
> (writing, editing, and testing) or technical wrangling (conversion to docbook 
> and committing to version control repository).  By content area of interest, 
> we're mainly thinking of whether content producers are working on 
> documentation for end users, system admins, or developers.
> - To get busy producing content and sharing it on the mailing list in 
> whatever format or state of readiness it's in, so we can make some visible 
> progress.
>
> I'll send out a "How to Get Started" email soon for those interested in 
> writing editing, and testing documentation, along with suggested deadlines 
> for those who prefer a deadline.  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
> --
> Karen Collier
> Public Services Librarian
> Kent County Public Library
> 408 High Street
> Chestertown, MD 21620
> 410-778-3636
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