>>> Because resetting someone's password to something that is basically
>>> public information, their phone number, is asking for accounts to be
>>> hijacked.

I complete agree - the sad thing is that many many libraries do this. My local 
public library uses birthdate by default. Some libraries use no password at all 
- you just enter the barcode and you're in.

To suggest something specific I'll say that my favorite way of handling this is 
to not set an initial password at all. Users without a password use the 
password reset tool. A slight wording change to something like "Request a new 
password" should be sufficient to clue them in. 

One issue I see with the whole password reset issue is that if you don't want 
to reset to a known value (like phone number), which is always going to be 
insecure, you depend on some kind of out of band communication method… usually 
email. We've talked to quite a few small libraries and many of their patrons 
don't have email addresses - or at least don't have them on their patron 
record. How can you handle password resets for these patrons without involving 
library staff and still maintain the security of their account? 


Regards,
Justin Hopkins
IT & Web Services Coordinator
573-808-2309
[email protected]




On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Berezansky wrote:

> All of the above.
> 
> Personally, I disagree with the setting existing to begin with, and think 
> that the initial passwords should be much more complicated than just digits.
> 
> Thomas Berezansky
> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
> 
> 
> Quoting Bob Wicksall <[email protected]>:
> 
>> <Snip>
>> 
>>> Because resetting someone's password to something that is basically
>>> public information, their phone number, is asking for accounts to be
>>> hijacked.
>> 
>> If that is the case you could argue that the setting shouldn't exist in the 
>> first place.  What is worse?  A database full of users who have never 
>> changed their password from the default phone number or a few manually reset 
>> passwords?
>> 
>> Bob Wicksall
>> Systems Administrator
>> 
>> Pioneer Library System
>> 2557 State Rt. 21
>> Canandaigua, New York  14424
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jason Stephenson" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 9:27:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Password reset uses phone number fails: 
>>> EG2.2
>>> 
>>> Quoting Thomas Berezansky <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> > All future resets would still be random.
>>> 
>>> Because resetting someone's password to something that is basically
>>> public information, their phone number, is asking for accounts to be
>>> hijacked.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jason Stephenson
>>> Assistant Director for Technology Services
>>> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
>>> Chief Bug Wrangler, Evergreen ILS
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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