Tara, What are the steps to download the server? On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:07 AM, open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org wrote:
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Re: I Need Help With Hostname (Tara Robertson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:07:08 -0800 > From: Tara Robertson <information.detect...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] I Need Help With Hostname > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > Message-ID: > <calpjnukxyy3-jqo+kultsuvd+8xikbt9sqbkap3jq+vjt23...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I'm still unclear if you downloaded Evergreen and created you own > installation of Evergreen. This would've taken a little while, or if you > downloaded the client, this would've taken about a minute. > > Can you clarify if you set up an Evergreen server, or if you just > downloaded the client? > > Thanks, > Tara > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM, K. D. <k...@icloud.com> wrote: > >> Hello Jason, Tara and all: >> >> I installed the 2.3 version of evergreen software. What client version or >> server works with this latest? >> >> Assuming I want to host this locally, what are the steps to host it >> locally? >> >> As always, thank you for your assistance. >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:55 AM, >> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org wrote: >> >>> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to >>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-general >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software Performance Analysis >>> (Tim Spindler) >>> 2. Re: I Need Help With Hostname (Tara Robertson) >>> 3. Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software Performance Analysis >>> (Mike Rylander) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:45:27 -0500 >>> From: Tim Spindler <tjspind...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software >>> Performance Analysis >>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Cc: Evergreen Development Discussion List >>> <open-ils-...@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAMAokjPDptvu4ssy+f=7cpbjihvkhzizb-6-ydqoob6_ke8...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Kathy, >>> >>> Are do you want some information like workflows that seem slow? For >>> instance, just got a report from a library about specific steps they are >>> doing to catalogiing where certain individual processes are slow. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> It was brought to my attention that everyone who may have some input for >>>> this discussion may not have an Evergreen wiki account. In that case, >>>> please feel free to send an e-mail (to the list, not directly to me) >>>> identifying any performance issues you believe should be addressed >> through >>>> a performance evaluation. I'll be happy to add them to the wiki. >>>> >>>> What I'm looking for is: >>>> >>>> 1. Any specific paint points you see in performance. >>>> 2. Any specific questions you think a performance evaluation should >> answer. >>>> 3. Any ideas you might already have regarding causes of performance >>>> problems. In reading through the logs from the "future of the staff >> client" >>>> meeting, I noticed several people said they thought it was important to >>>> bring these ideas together before reaching out to a consultant, and I >> agree >>>> that this is an important first step in the process. >>>> >>>> I posted just a few of our local issues at >> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issues >>>> : >>>> >>>> STAFF CLIENT: >>>> >>>> Memory leaks - is there an inherent problem with the technology used in >>>> the staff client (xulrunner, Dojo) that is the source of the memory leak >>>> problem and other performance problems? >>>> Slow retrieval of patron records >>>> >>>> MESSAGING (OPENSRF): >>>> Staff client batch operations (e.g. updates/deletes from copy buckets) >>>> >>>> DATABASE: >>>> Catalog search - is there a way to optimize searching in the catalog so >>>> that users get faster results and are able to start re-implementing >> things >>>> like search.relevance_adjustment to provide boosts to relevance ranking? >>>> >>>> I'm quite sure there are far more pain points out there, so please don't >>>> feel shy about contributing to the list! >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy Lussier >>>> Project Coordinator >>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) >> 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >>>> >>>> On 2/25/2013 11:44 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Having heard no objections to proceeding with finding somebody to do a >>>> software performance analysis, I have created a page on the wiki at >> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issueswherewe >> can identify the pain points that need further evaluation and add >>>> any questions that we hope a performance analysis might be able to >> answer. >>>> >>>> I have started the list off with some basic issues/questions that have >>>> come up in our own systems. During the future of the staff client >> meeting, >>>> Dan Scott had mentioned that there might be three points of >> attack:client, >>>> opensrf, database. I thought dividing the list into those three areas >>>> might be a good way to start. >>>> >>>> I'm hoping that all the knowledgeable sys admins out there who have a >>>> stronger understanding of the system architecture than I do can build >> this >>>> list into something that might be a good starting point for any >> performance >>>> evaluation, whether it's done by a third party or by somebody in the >>>> Evergreen community. By identifying the questions we hope a performance >>>> evaluation might answer, we are also identifying what our expectations >> are >>>> before we enter the process. I would want to be clear on our >> expectations >>>> before formally talking to any third party so that we can be fully >> informed >>>> about whether an evaluation could meet those expectations. >>>> >>>> Kathy >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy Lussier >>>> Project Coordinator >>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) >> 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2013 2:26 PM, Mike Rylander wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't sure if I should add this to the QA discussion, but it seemed >>>>> worthy of its own thread. >>>>> >>>>> During the "future of the staff client" meeting, I advocated for >> bringing >>>>> in a consultant to do a software performance analysis for Evergreen to >> help >>>>> us identify where the critical bottlenecks are in the system in the >> hopes >>>>> that we could then identify the areas that need to be worked on to >> improve >>>>> performance. At the time, I didn't have any concrete suggestions on >> finding >>>>> a consultant who could take on this project, but I have since done some >>>>> more investigation and have a couple of leads, the most promising of >> which >>>>> is an individual local to Massachusetts who previously worked for many >>>>> years at Stratus Technologies where he was involved in all levels of >>>>> performance analysis. He now teaches graduate-level courses on >> performance >>>>> evaluation and also does contract work. >>>>> >>>>> Now that I actually have concrete leads, I would like to get the ball >>>>> rolling, provided there is support from the larger community. I'm not >> quite >>>>> sure how this might fit in with ESI's planned QA efforts or with the >>>>> possibility of bringing in a firm like OmniTI as Dan suggested, but my >>>>> reading into these QA e-mails is that the focus would be on testing new >>>>> commits. >>>> >>>> I want to clarify something that Dan seems to have assumed incorrectly: >>>> that anything ESI does is mutually exclusive with bringing in outside >>>> expertise. Nobody has any grounds to stop such an effort, and it would >>>> be ridiculous to argue otherwise, words put into my mouth >> notwithstanding. >>>> The initial focus of an ESI effort will be what exists today, through >>>> infrastructure, so that what exists tomorrow can then be tested. >>>> >>>> As for how it would fit in, ESI would absorb and internalize any advice >>>> or direction, just like any other community member, and work within the >>>> community to incorporate that. >>>> >>>> So, why have ESI involved at all? Besides the fact that we create a >>>> significant portion of the code, and that it benefits us as much as >> anyone >>>> to have a more stable Evergreen, there is a need for ongoing, active >>>> leadership in QA. The fact is that it has not materialized yet, so >> we're >>>> looking for a way to make that a maintainable proposition for the >>>> community's benefit. That means ongoing, deep integration with both >>>> developer and user communities. And that is not something that we can >>>> expect from OmniTI or any other organization that is not plugged into >> those >>>> communities. Could some other organization step into that role, and >>>> provide years of ongoing QA support? Perhaps so, but ESI exists today >> and >>>> has the Evergreen expertise needed to avoid long (and costly) ramp-up >> time. >>>> >>>> The point is this, though, ESI will encourage any effort to improve >>>> Evergreen, and is willing and able to work in the community, as we >> always >>>> do, to further those efforts. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Kathy! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Rylander >>>> | Director of Research and Development >>>> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source >>>> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >>>> | email: mi...@esilibrary.com >>>> | web: http://www.esilibrary.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tim Spindler >>> tjspind...@gmail.com >>> >>> *P** Go Green - **Save a tree! Please don't print this e-mail unless >> it's >>> really necessary.* >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130227/11e6bce2/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:50:28 -0800 >>> From: Tara Robertson <information.detect...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] I Need Help With Hostname >>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CALPJNUkfz3s=h9ojpjkwphyxwygpke6zhdfnmw1_3g1gsyx...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My hunch also is that you might have just downloaded the client. There >> are >>> some community Evergreen servers: >> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community_servers#community_demo_serversCan >>> you connect to any of them from your computer? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tara >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jason Stephenson <jstephen...@mvlc.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Quoting "K. D." <k...@icloud.com>: >>>> >>>> Hi Steve Wills and Alexey Lazar: >>>>> >>>>> I installed the software on Windows 7. Command HOSTNAME does not tell >> me >>>>> anything. I am currently using local host. I do appreciate your >> support. >>>> You need a server to connect to. It sounds like you have downloaded the >>>> client. The client by itself is useless without a server. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jason Stephenson >>>> Assistant Director for Technology Services >>>> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium >>>> Chief Bug Wrangler, Evergreen ILS >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130227/ba69c699/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:55:01 -0500 >>> From: Mike Rylander <mrylan...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software >>> Performance Analysis >>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Cc: Evergreen Development Discussion List >>> <open-ils-...@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAO8ar=njaCv0zcffhH_oZjR9nMFnU5xT-mVmBgF2rnsr=-u...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Thanks, Kathy, this is great! I've filled in some info that ESI has >>> gathered and experiments toward resolution we've performed. We'll work >> to >>> keep this up to date with any progress we make. >>> >>> --miker >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> It was brought to my attention that everyone who may have some input for >>>> this discussion may not have an Evergreen wiki account. In that case, >>>> please feel free to send an e-mail (to the list, not directly to me) >>>> identifying any performance issues you believe should be addressed >> through >>>> a performance evaluation. I'll be happy to add them to the wiki. >>>> >>>> What I'm looking for is: >>>> >>>> 1. Any specific paint points you see in performance. >>>> 2. Any specific questions you think a performance evaluation should >> answer. >>>> 3. Any ideas you might already have regarding causes of performance >>>> problems. In reading through the logs from the "future of the staff >> client" >>>> meeting, I noticed several people said they thought it was important to >>>> bring these ideas together before reaching out to a consultant, and I >> agree >>>> that this is an important first step in the process. >>>> >>>> I posted just a few of our local issues at >> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issues >>>> : >>>> >>>> STAFF CLIENT: >>>> >>>> Memory leaks - is there an inherent problem with the technology used in >>>> the staff client (xulrunner, Dojo) that is the source of the memory leak >>>> problem and other performance problems? >>>> Slow retrieval of patron records >>>> >>>> MESSAGING (OPENSRF): >>>> Staff client batch operations (e.g. updates/deletes from copy buckets) >>>> >>>> DATABASE: >>>> Catalog search - is there a way to optimize searching in the catalog so >>>> that users get faster results and are able to start re-implementing >> things >>>> like search.relevance_adjustment to provide boosts to relevance ranking? >>>> >>>> I'm quite sure there are far more pain points out there, so please don't >>>> feel shy about contributing to the list! >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy Lussier >>>> Project Coordinator >>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) >> 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >>>> >>>> On 2/25/2013 11:44 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Having heard no objections to proceeding with finding somebody to do a >>>> software performance analysis, I have created a page on the wiki at >> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issueswherewe >> can identify the pain points that need further evaluation and add >>>> any questions that we hope a performance analysis might be able to >> answer. >>>> >>>> I have started the list off with some basic issues/questions that have >>>> come up in our own systems. During the future of the staff client >> meeting, >>>> Dan Scott had mentioned that there might be three points of >> attack:client, >>>> opensrf, database. I thought dividing the list into those three areas >>>> might be a good way to start. >>>> >>>> I'm hoping that all the knowledgeable sys admins out there who have a >>>> stronger understanding of the system architecture than I do can build >> this >>>> list into something that might be a good starting point for any >> performance >>>> evaluation, whether it's done by a third party or by somebody in the >>>> Evergreen community. By identifying the questions we hope a performance >>>> evaluation might answer, we are also identifying what our expectations >> are >>>> before we enter the process. I would want to be clear on our >> expectations >>>> before formally talking to any third party so that we can be fully >> informed >>>> about whether an evaluation could meet those expectations. >>>> >>>> Kathy >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy Lussier >>>> Project Coordinator >>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) >> 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2013 2:26 PM, Mike Rylander wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't sure if I should add this to the QA discussion, but it seemed >>>>> worthy of its own thread. >>>>> >>>>> During the "future of the staff client" meeting, I advocated for >> bringing >>>>> in a consultant to do a software performance analysis for Evergreen to >> help >>>>> us identify where the critical bottlenecks are in the system in the >> hopes >>>>> that we could then identify the areas that need to be worked on to >> improve >>>>> performance. At the time, I didn't have any concrete suggestions on >> finding >>>>> a consultant who could take on this project, but I have since done some >>>>> more investigation and have a couple of leads, the most promising of >> which >>>>> is an individual local to Massachusetts who previously worked for many >>>>> years at Stratus Technologies where he was involved in all levels of >>>>> performance analysis. He now teaches graduate-level courses on >> performance >>>>> evaluation and also does contract work. >>>>> >>>>> Now that I actually have concrete leads, I would like to get the ball >>>>> rolling, provided there is support from the larger community. I'm not >> quite >>>>> sure how this might fit in with ESI's planned QA efforts or with the >>>>> possibility of bringing in a firm like OmniTI as Dan suggested, but my >>>>> reading into these QA e-mails is that the focus would be on testing new >>>>> commits. >>>> >>>> I want to clarify something that Dan seems to have assumed incorrectly: >>>> that anything ESI does is mutually exclusive with bringing in outside >>>> expertise. Nobody has any grounds to stop such an effort, and it would >>>> be ridiculous to argue otherwise, words put into my mouth >> notwithstanding. >>>> The initial focus of an ESI effort will be what exists today, through >>>> infrastructure, so that what exists tomorrow can then be tested. >>>> >>>> As for how it would fit in, ESI would absorb and internalize any advice >>>> or direction, just like any other community member, and work within the >>>> community to incorporate that. >>>> >>>> So, why have ESI involved at all? Besides the fact that we create a >>>> significant portion of the code, and that it benefits us as much as >> anyone >>>> to have a more stable Evergreen, there is a need for ongoing, active >>>> leadership in QA. The fact is that it has not materialized yet, so >> we're >>>> looking for a way to make that a maintainable proposition for the >>>> community's benefit. That means ongoing, deep integration with both >>>> developer and user communities. And that is not something that we can >>>> expect from OmniTI or any other organization that is not plugged into >> those >>>> communities. Could some other organization step into that role, and >>>> provide years of ongoing QA support? Perhaps so, but ESI exists today >> and >>>> has the Evergreen expertise needed to avoid long (and costly) ramp-up >> time. >>>> >>>> The point is this, though, ESI will encourage any effort to improve >>>> Evergreen, and is willing and able to work in the community, as we >> always >>>> do, to further those efforts. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Kathy! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Rylander >>>> | Director of Research and Development >>>> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source >>>> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >>>> | email: mi...@esilibrary.com >>>> | web: http://www.esilibrary.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Rylander >>> | Director of Research and Development >>> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source >>> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >>> | email: mi...@esilibrary.com >>> | web: http://www.esilibrary.com >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130227/55f12b53/attachment.htm >>> >>> >>> End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 80, Issue 45 >>> ************************************************ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130306/a616e002/attachment.htm> > > End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 > ***********************************************