Hi Rogan,

Frankly, I worry this is starting to get into the territory of "let's add another permission (or YAOUS) for every eventuality no matter how obscure."

Yes, I think I agree with you here, which is why I'm suggesting that rather than adding a permission, we remove that menu entry altogether. Since holds are already transferred as part of a record merge and there is another method available to transfer all holds that requires the user to actively select those holds, it seems to be an unnecessary and potentially dangerous option to me. Dangerous may be too strong of a word, but it is something that is problematic when it is accidentally selected.

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
[email protected]
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 8/4/2014 8:44 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
Frankly, I worry this is starting to get into the territory of "let's add another permission (or YAOUS) for every eventuality no matter how obscure."

Some features I think in the long run complicate our lives (documentation, testing, development) more than they improve functionality.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Kathy Lussier <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I wanted to seek some feedback on Launchpad bug 1350377
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1350377.

    The bug seeks an additional permission to be used with the
    "Transfer All Title Holds" option in the client. However, I was
    wondering if there would be any support from removing that option
    from the client altogether.

    Here's the issue:

    When you are in a bib record in the staff client, you have the
    option to transfer *all* title holds to another bib record. You
    first need to mark the other bib record as a holds transfer
    destination.

    However, you also have the option to transfer one or any number of
    selected holds to the marked bib record from the holds view of the
    bib record. You could transfer just one hold here or you could
    select them all if you really needed to transfer all holds. The
    benefit of using this option is that the user must actively select
    the holds that will be transferred.

    I personally think providing a blanket "Transfer All Title Holds"
    option in the client is dangerous, even if there were a separate
    permission for it, and unnecessary since there are other methods
    available in the staff client to accomplish the same task. Making
    it even more dangerous is the fact that the "Actions for this
    Record" menu that contains this option to transfer all holds is
    still available in the holds view of the bib record, which is
    where you go to transfer selected holds (see the screencast at
    http://www.screencast.com/t/ifHhJHNqq). It is very easy to
    mistakenly select this option when you are trying just to transfer
    just one hold. In fact, I accidentally selected it when I was just
    testing out the transfer holds scenario a few minutes ago.

    During a brief discussion in IRC on this issue, it was mentioned
    that possible use cases for the "transfer all title holds" option are:

    1. When staff are manually merging bib records. The client bib
    merge option automatically merges holds, but there may be reasons
    staff merge the records without using that option.
    2. In cases where there are orphaned holds on a record that no
    longer has copies to fill the hold.

    Since I think both of these use cases could be accommodated by
    using the option where you transfer selected holds, I wanted to
    see if others would support removing the "Transfer All Title
    Holds" option. Is there anyone who uses this option with some
    frequency who thinks it should continue to be available?

    Thanks!
    Kathy

-- Kathy Lussier
    Project Coordinator
    Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
    (508) 343-0128 <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier




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Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

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