Frankly I don't know if either way holds legal water since it's never come to 
that for us, but we also don't refer accounts to collections so we've never had 
to address it in a legal sense.

            >> You’re not missing out, Andrea. We haven’t received any money 
from our collection agency in years…. ☹

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Andrea 
Buntz Neiman
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] patron registration

This is what we do, only 5 years as approved by our Board & reviewed by an 
attorney.  We shred monthly anything past that 5 year retention period.

I don't recall that I've ever had to pull an application, but I have on 
occasion reminded dispute-y patrons that they signed an agreement when they got 
their card.

As for online registrants, maybe some language like "by submitting this 
application, you agree to abide by all rules & policies (etc.)" could be added 
to the form in lieu of a signature.

Frankly I don't know if either way holds legal water since it's never come to 
that for us, but we also don't refer accounts to collections so we've never had 
to address it in a legal sense.

A.




Andrea Buntz Neiman, MLS

Librarian II, Public Services

Kent County Public Library

408 High Street

Chestertown, MD 21620

410-778-3636 x2115

www.kentcountylibrary.org<http://www.kentcountylibrary.org>
On 5/29/2015 3:53 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
Retention in SC varies.  We're allowed to create those rules on a county by 
county basis but we have to have a policy for them.  In our case it's three 
years for agreements so they go into boxes labeled by year and then 
periodically feed into recycling shredders.

On Friday, May 29, 2015, Holly Brennan 
<haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us<mailto:haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us>> wrote:
Excellent point, Elaine. I’ll do that (with fingers crossed).

From: Open-ils-general 
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 On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:31 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] patron registration

Holly,

You may also want to check to see if your state has any laws, rules, or 
regulations concerning retention of library/patron records (if you have not 
already done so). Sometimes the regs are OK with electronic versions and 
sometimes they are not.

Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235.7128
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From: Open-ils-general 
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 On Behalf Of Holly Brennan
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
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Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] patron registration

I’ve set up everything needed for online patron registration, but haven’t 
implemented yet. The stumper is how we deal with hard copies of registrations.  
We’ve always had a paper app with signature and we file these in an old card 
catalog.

Do any of you NOT print registrations or keep any hard copies of patron info? 
Or do you have something simple with just an agreement and signature that 
doesn’t have to include much about the patron besides name?

I feel we might be holding onto paper for nothing. Reasons given to keep it:

1)      What if something tragic happens to our ILS? We’ll have paper to backup 
patron info. (My thoughts: If it’s THAT tragic, the whole building has likely 
been destroyed…. And also, we’re going to manually reenter patron info for each 
and every person?!)

2)      The patron’s signature is the true agreement. We can use it to hold 
them responsible for lost items, fines, etc. (I can’t think of a time, ever, 
that I’ve retrieved a paper app and pointed to a signature in order to convince 
a patron to do something they agreed to.)

My goal with this is to find a number of you who keep absolutely nothing on 
paper. (And who don’t even have a super cool digital signature contraption.)

Thanks!

-Holly

Holly Brennan
Library Technology Specialist
Homer Public Library, Alaska

hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov');>
907-235-3180 (main)
907-435-3154 (direct)



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Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

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