OPENJPA-6 was supposed to be about creating subclasses of the proxy
types that actually delegate through on the fly. Maybe I didn't capture
that difference very well. Eloquence is not my friend today.

-Patrick

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Patrick Linskey
BEA Systems, Inc.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:07 PM
> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JDBC 4 (was: Was it just me?)
> 
> Hmm, did we all create the same JIRA issue? :)
> 
> I crated OPENJPA-4 at the same time as the other issue, but it seems
> -5 and -6 are both about the same thing.
> 
> - Brett
> 
> On 01/08/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This definitely needs a JIRA issue. We should use the JIRA to track 
> > our discussion of the issue, unless folks think it's better 
> to use our 
> > wiki. Is it set up yet?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:15 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> >
> > Yes, OpenJPA implements Statement, ResultSet, Connection, 
> and maybe a 
> > couple other JDBC interfaces. See 
> > org.apache.openjpa.lib.jdbc.Delegating*. We do this for a number of
> > reasons: to resolve database-specific bugs in a transparent 
> fashion, 
> > to provide logging, to handle reference counting, etc.
> >
> > The pressing issue is that we must provide implementations 
> of all of 
> > the methods in the various java.sql interfaces. The fact that we do 
> > not implement the new JDBC4 methods is why OpenJPA won't currently 
> > compile against JDK6. This is pretty easy to fix; take a look at 
> > org.apache.openjpa.lib.jdbc.DelegatingStatement to see how 
> we handled 
> > this for JDBC3. Since we know that we never invoke the new 
> methods, we 
> > can happily throw unsupported operation exceptions for the 
> new methods.
> >
> > However, these unsupported methods do provide a challenge. 
> While Kodo 
> > doesn't use any of these methods, our mechanism for 
> implementing them 
> > is limiting, in that users who obtain Connections from Kodo 
> will not 
> > be able to use the new JDBC3/JDBC4 methods in their own 
> code. Ideally, 
> > we should provide some means for people to designate to 
> OpenJPA that 
> > it should use a dynamic proxy to implement the 
> unimplemented methods. 
> > This shouldn't be the default behavior, as the dynamic 
> proxy will add 
> > overhead, but certainly could be desirable for some. I'll 
> file an issue.
> > >
> > > -Patrick
> > >
> > > --
> > > Patrick Linskey
> > > BEA Systems, Inc.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:02 PM
> > >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: JDBC 4 (was: Was it just me?)
> > >>
> > >> You can access earlier versions of jdbc to compile against using 
> > >> special javac properties for library jars. But I don't know how 
> > >> maven deals with this.
> > >>
> > >> What specific errors are you getting when compiling 
> against jdbc 4?
> > >> I'm not aware of any additions that would make programs that 
> > >> compile against jdbc 3 not compile against jdbc 4. You don't
> > >> *implement* any jdbc interfaces, do you?
> > >>
> > >> Craig
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>>> BTW, you may be aware, but it doesn't compile on Java 6
> > >>>> due to the
> > >>>>>> JDBC interface changes. I'll add that to JIRA if its 
> not there 
> > >>>>>> already.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yeah, we've had this problem in the past as well.
> > >>>> Historically, we've
> > >>>>> created special modified JDBC jars so that we can compile
> > >>>> on earlier
> > >>>>> VM versions. How is this type of problem typically handled
> > >>>> in Apache-land?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Isn't this the other way around? If the additional methods are 
> > >>>> implemented to make it compile on Java 6, it will 
> continue to be 
> > >>>> binary compatible with the earlier JDBC versions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, that. Meant "so that we can run on earlier VM versions."
> > >>>
> > >>> So... how does Apache typically deal with this? The only
> > >> alternate to
> > >>> the way we've done things in the past is an approach that
> > >> uses dynamic
> > >>> proxies / auto-generated proxies / dynamically-modified classes.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Patrick
> > >>>
> > >> 
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