- You mention in several places about separating away the notion of
specs and stores. In a general sense, I understand what these are. But, can you elaborate on how these types are used in the ConfigurationProvider
  and ProductDerivation interfaces?

What I meant was that the ProductDerivation interface has methods and constants that imply knowledge of what a "spec" is and what a "store" is: afterSepcificationSet(), TYPE_STORE, etc. These methods and constants become meaningless when the interface is moved from kernel to lib, because lib is code that is completely ignorant of what's built on top of it. OpenJPA kernel understands that there might be different spec facades built on it, and that there might be different data stores plugged in, but lib code shouldn't be aware of those concepts.

Actually, I wouldn't mind moving the OpenJPAConfiguration.setSpecification() method to the base Configuration interface and giving lib the notion of a spec, because that's a sufficiently general idea. But lib certainly shouldn't know anything about data stores -- that concept is very persistence- specific. So I believe that at the very least, the TYPE_STORE stuff has to be moved out of ProductDerivation and into something in the kernel if ProductDerivation itself moves into lib. As I mentioned in my original email, it might seem odd to maintain the strict neutrality of lib code given that it's only used for OpenJPA, but we do in fact build on that code with some non-persistence-aware Kodo stuff, and as long as there is a separation of modules within OpenJPA, I'd like to maintain the meaning of lib-as-neutral vs. kernel-as-persistence-aware.

Now that we need to return a ConfigurationProvider, would you
expect that we just new up a ConfigurationProviderImpl and then just call across to the "load" methods on the implementation? Since we want to keep the ProductDerivations stateless, I'm not sure how else you were expecting
  to create a ConfigurationProvider to return on these "load" methods.

I would expect the ProductDerivation itself to do most of the load work and to populate a new ConfigurationProvider with the parsed state. The ProductDerivation itself would remain stateless, but would contain the load logic. We can probably have just one ConfigurationProviderImpl that will work for most derivations (i.e. ConfigurationProviderImpl will probably not have to be JPA-specific anymore, and can move into lib's conf package or somewhere where it can be used by JDO, etc as well). I bet a slight rework of MapConfigurationProvider would do the trick.

  - Now that ConfigurationProvider is bare, the
ConfigurationTestConfigurationProvider doesn't have much function. I'll
  need to take a look to see if this is even required any longer.

Yeah, I'm sure tests will need updating.

  - Can you shed a bit more light on the Configurations class?  It
doesn't implement nor extend any interfaces or classes, but it seems to provide many of the same methods as ConfigurationProvider, but as statics. And, it's dependent on having a Provider. Can you explain the relationship of this class in the bigger picture and how you think it might be affected
  by thes changes?

It's a utility class. Aside from the low-level utils it provides, it's mainly there so that its static configuration methods can be invoked without worrying about what services the system is configured with. Configurations does the work of looking up the right ConfigurationProvider using the services framework and applying it. Otherwise, each component that used a ConfigurationProvider would have to invoke the Services utilities itself to figure out which ConfigurationProvider to use.

When ProductDerivation takes over, Configurations will change to use ProductDerivations instead, and will subsume the functionality of kernel's conf.ProductDerivations utility class.
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