On Feb 23, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Pinaki Poddar wrote:

One way to realize a owner object with a partially filled
multi-cardinality relationship is to expand fetchplan concept. For
example, if we consider a Department of 100 Employees of which only 20
are oldtimers, then a query can select the particular Department from
the datastore but to realize that Department as a Java object in memory with only 20 senior Employees in _employees collection will need to tune
the fetch plan acconrdingly.
In JDO, fetch plan is specified to certain details to extract a subset
of native states and subset of relationships. JPA does not yet specify
fetch plan, but OpenJPA does via @FetchGroup extension. However
currently, no filtering criterion is applied to filter the content while
a particular relationship path is traversed. It is a all-or-nothing
affair. Either Department is fetched with all its 100 Employees or the
Employees relation is not traversed at all. The only control available
now is to specify which native states and relationship will be
considered for fetching and in case of recursive relationship how many
times a particular relation path will be traversed.
Essentially query and fecth paths are working in conjunction -- query
selects the root object and fetch plan decides which subset of the
closure of this root object is realized in memory. It will surely be a useful feature to consider expanding fetch plan with filtering criteria.

Sorry to disagree. If you fetch Department instances, I think you always want the _employees collection to contain all the related Employees. You never want a filtered collection unless you provide a filter via some Java behavior.

In the query case, you want to get references to the filtered instances but there's no connection to the _employees field of the department.

This is a good thing.

Craig



Pinaki Poddar
BEA Systems
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-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Linskey
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:37 PM
To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: possible to write a JPA Query to that filters both an
Entity and its relationship entities?

I would expect that your query would return the unfiltered employees
collection. But I have not run any tests.

In other words, I would expect that the oldtimers collection would be
the full set of employees for each dept that had any oldtimers >= 15.

That said, I don't think that your interpretation is necessarily wrong.
Just not my expectation.

-Patrick

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Hi Patrick,

 From the JPQL
select dept, oldtimers from Department dept LEFT JOIN
dept.employeeCollection oldtimers WHERE dept.deptno >= 100 AND
oldtimers.yearsOfService >= 15

I expect to get SQL that looks something like select dept.id,
dept.name, oldtimers.id, oldtimers.firstname, oldtimers.lastname,
oldtimers.salary, oldtimers.ssn from Department dept, Employee
oldtimers WHERE dept.id = oldtimers.deptid AND dept.deptno >= 100 AND

oldtimers.yearsOfService >= 15

I then construct instances from the returned dept and oldtimers
columns and give back to the user the results, with one result row for

each SQL ResultSet row. So the filtering from the JPQL translated into

the WHERE clause in the SQL should exclude oldtimers that don't
qualify.

If you don't use the oldtimers.yearsOfService >= 15 in the SQL, then
you will get all of the employees in the department returned in the
result. But why do you not use the oldtimers.yearsOfService >= 15 in
the SQL?

Craig

On Feb 23, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:

In fact, you have to do a bit of work to get SQL to return you non-

filtered instances. So I don't get it. Does OpenJPA not construct
the obvious SQL that filters oldtimers?

I don't think that you and I are really in sync here. Maybe
some more
concrete examples are in order?

-Patrick

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So,

I can tell you that having a result column that is filtered in the
query is not what a user would expect. In JDO, the oldtimers column

would be filtered.

In fact, you have to do a bit of work to get SQL to return you non-

filtered instances. So I don't get it. Does OpenJPA not construct
the obvious SQL that filters oldtimers?

I've re-read the JPA specification, and it appears to be silent on
the issue of filtering. Is this a portability issue?

Craig

On Feb 23, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Tom Mutdosch wrote:

Hi Patrick,
Thanks for the query suggestion.  I guess what I was initially
thinking of doing was incorrect in that JPA doesn't really give me

a "view" of what I want.  That is, I can never get a Department
object containing a list of filtered Employees.  A JPA object
returned from a query is always going to be an exact
representation
of the database.  So your Department object is always going to
contain all of the Employees in its relationship.

So like you mentioned, I can still get all the information using
one query, and then just process those results as I want them.  I
imagine that this would entail some sort of wrapper bean
that would
house the Department and the filtered list of Employees.  Or what
if I added a regular method to my Department entity called
getFilterEmployees() which would return a List that I populated
with the filtered results from my query?  Does that seem like a
reasonable thing to do -- if I didn't want to deal with a wrapper
object but still have all of my desired data captured by a single
Entity?
Thanks
Tom


Patrick Linskey wrote:
It is, but it doesn't buy you much in this situation --
the oldTimers
collection in your example won't be filtered to just the
ones that
are
old. It'll be all the employees in the dept.

-Patrick



Craig Russell
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