FYI -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: Re: [pp-eu] Understanding Liquid Democracy Data: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:38:12 +0200 Mittente: <[email protected]> Rispondi-a: EU Election coordination group <[email protected]> A: EU Election coordination group <[email protected]>
IMO, direct democracy is good for "small groups", so, nobody concentrates too much power. It would had been an issue for us (PP-CAT) a year ago, but now maybe it's okay. We use Direct Democracy, and we almost never reach a 20% of participation, out of almost 800. Liquid democracy is good for bigger groups, when a person is simply unable to gather all that "attention". On the other hand, to vote for bureau members, candidates and so on, I'd prefer to stick to direct democracy. Regards, Kenneth On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:42:24 +0200, carlo von lynX <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:06:50AM +0000, Antonio Garcia wrote: >> The delegation system in Liquid Feedback is absolutely *optional*, you >> can perfectly ignore it. > > If you disable delegations (aka Liquid Democracy) you will run into > the effect of "dictatorship by the actives," that means you get a > skew towards those that have more time to spend on LQFB against those > who don't have it. It is the effect that led to the demise of the > grassroots democratic approach in the Grünen party in the 80s. > > LQFB was designed to overcome the mistakes made by the Greens. > Delegations are intended to have the voice of the ones that have > a lot of work and a family properly considered. The way delegations > find their way to the experts by passing through particularely > popular people is part of the deal. Sven, if a hundred people out of > 30.000 party members trust Prof. Martin Haase for good policy-making > on LQFB, you have to respect them, not call it a #fail. After all > he isn't even aggregating 1% of the party will. Other parties > are usually devote to their respective leaders in the >80% area. > > Aww.. job of a politician is to say the same things over and over.. > I usually explain this to n00bs but looks like I have to explain > it even within the pp-eu. > > Greets. > > _______________________________________________ > pp-eu mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu _______________________________________________ pp-eu mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu _______________________________________________ Open mailing list [email protected] http://ml.partito-pirata.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/open
