Dear Rudy, dear all,

thank you for your email.

- Qeios’ text editor is a visual editor specifically designed for researchers.

- “9M active researchers around the world”, “2.8M articles published per year” 
and “1.5T global R&D expenditure per year” [1.5 trillion PPP (purchasing power 
parity) dollars] are UNESCO figures about the scientific community, not Qeios’ 
numbers. We have just launched Qeios Beta and started inviting researchers. 
Qeios’ community counts now 120 researchers. We didn’t think those figures 
could be confusing. Thank you for the feedback.


- So far, Qeios have been funded by co-founders’ personal savings + money from 
a couple of knowledge-enthusiasts. To make it self-sustainable, stable and 
allow for improvements, we are planning to apply a monthly fee of $10 to access 
some services such as Qeios’ text editor and storage, depending on their usage. 
There won’t be advertisements, APCs or any other hidden expenses.

We are just offering a possible solution and trying to make research better.

Feedback of any type is much appreciated. 

Many thanks and all the best,

Gabriele

—
Gabriele Marinello
Co-founder, Qeios Ltd

34, Old Barrack Yard, SW1X 7NP, London, UK
UK   +44 (0) 7426 853828
IT   +39 380 8912791
[email protected]
www.qeios.com

On Wed, Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:21 PM, Rudy Patard <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Gabriele, dear all,

So you're ontologists. I suppose (hope) you enable researchers to produce their 
articles as semantic content. But I'm curious on how you enable fuzziness in 
knowledge production.
Would end point querying be available ?

I saw you put a F1000 reference in you email. I recall having worked on that 
during my thesis.
(french) "F1000Research publie sous licence CC-BY et requière des APC de 1000 
USD HT pour des articles entre 2500 et 8000 mots. 1000 USD de plus sont exigés 
au delà de cette limite et il faut les contacter au delà de 15000 mots." (my 
thesis, git repos linked in signature)
Would you grant us the pleasure of showing us the 'business model' of QEIOS ? 
I'd like to understand how this young firm of yours as reached the "9M active 
researchers", "2.8M articles" and "1.5T expenditure" (and just for the record, 
1.5T, a trillion and a half of what ? USD, £ ?)
M a mega, T a trillion, so should we guess for a F1000Research - like business 
model, with Author Publication Charges (APC) about around 500(monetary unit) / 
article ?
I let wikimedians do the math of their number of articles divided by their 
total charges (understanding the limits in comparing 1st source and 
encyclopedia production) to 'ponder' if F1000 and/or QEIOS rank as "predatory 
publication" according to "raw cost" of sustaining a massive publication 
structure. One should also take into account that many universities grant 
"server" space for their 'workers' as well as archives (for green OA as for 
grey production)...
You claim on your site that "Qeios can be read 100% free by anyone. There are 
no economic and technological barriers between knowledge and people with 
Internet access.", but that does not tell us how it is funded and about 
barriers in producing knowledge (not only reading others).

 
I still do not understand why researchers don't switch to wikimedian-like 
productions. Or more precisely, I understand and strongly disagree on why they 
continue feeding such a system of theirs. At least, I'd expect wide margins of 
our social group to "fork" production-review-dissemination systems (poorly 
funded universities or disciplines, strongly fundamentals 'math'-geeks, 
computer scientists working opensource-style etc.). I came to the conclusion 
(while reading Bourdieu) that "academia" knows its (social) reproduction 
patterns and quietly approve of it, and maintain it. I'm still waiting for the 
critical mass.

In case the list is interested, I developed a protocol in my final thesis 
chapter based on wikimedian space:
* descriptions in English (chinese and french) versions under common
* french project under wikiversité Journal Scientifique Libre 

 
BR
Rudy, RP87

Cordialement
Rudy Patard <mailto:[email protected]> 
{{u|RP87}}

 
Coopérateur Optéos, commoner,
Développeur de techniques intermédiaires libres
& Chercheur in-terre-dépendant [hal] [youtube]
 


 
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 15:23, Gabriele - Qeios <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Dear Wikimedia OA list members,

I’m Gabriele Marinello, co-founder along with Giorgio Bedogni and Alberto 
Bedogni of Qeios (https://www.qeios.com/about). The reason I’m writing - to 
share with you what Qeios is about. Hopefully, you’ll find this interesting. It 
goes without saying, it’s about Open Science.

We are striving hard to finally give researchers power over the entire 
knowledge life-cycle: production, quality check and sharing. The overall result 
is not just immensely positive for all the stakeholders in the process, but 
also, and most of all, for the output - knowledge. Free, better and more 
comparable/reproducible knowledge.

In short.

We do are applying the power of the community review, as many now do 
(fortunately), but to be faaaar more effective, we are doing this at 2 
different levels: the ingredients and the cake! The ingredients being the 
definitions of which an article, the cake, is made of. We firstly want the 
community to finally reach a consensus on what the best definitions to be used 
are when creating knowledge (a real “Definictionary” for researchers, so that 
they can all speak the same language!), and then let the same community openly 
review the output in terms of articles.

Just to make you a quick example of an “ingredient”: think about the definition 
of “Quality of Life” (QoL), essential metric when evaluating almost any medical 
treatment (what is medicine fighting for?); there are thousands of different 
definitions of QoL… and anyone is using the one which is best suited to his/her 
p-value… in short, anyone is speaking the language which can benefit most to 
him/her.

And a research article is made of hundreds of definitions… and for each there 
are dozens of variants... we can now easily understand how incomparable can be 
2 articles that are trying to find an answer to the same question (e.g. what is 
the best treatment for Depression?), each being made of its unique mix of 
definitions... and it is precisely here that the indecision and 
inconclusiveness of the research arise: we are not able, in almost all cases, 
to say "treatment A is better than treatment B" simply because the 2 papers, 
the 2 studies, are not comparable!

Articles and definitions are composed and published directly on the platform 
(and Qeios editor is satisfying like never before ; )). This is the most 
suitable way to take advantage of the new object “definition” in producing the 
best possible knowledge: the rating system built on definitions allows in fact 
researchers the assisted-choice of the best ingredients to use when composing 
their articles... and if now anyone can easily recognise the best definitions, 
articles will be automatically composed more homogeneously, which means more 
comparable/reproducible research.

Researchers have the power, let’s use that power!

For those who are not familiar with the open post-publication peer review (i.e. 
community review), I wouldn’t be able to give a better insight into its value 
than Andrew Gelman here: 
https://andrewgelman.com/2016/02/01/peer-review-make-no-damn-sense/. To better 
understand what the guiding principles of the Qeios philosophy are, I would 
also suggest these articles by Jon Tennant et al. and Jason Priem: 
https://f1000research.com/articles/6-1151/v3 ; 
https://www.nature.com/articles/495437a.

In the words of Einstein: "Only the individual can think, and thereby create 
new values for society — nay, even set up new moral standards to which the life 
of the community conforms. Without creative, independently thinking and judging 
personalities the upward development of society is as unthinkable as the 
development of the individual personality without the nourishing soil of the 
community.” We defend the creativeness of the individual in the same way as we 
support the value that only the community can add.

If you are curious, you can find a video and more information here: 
https://www.qeios.com/about

If then you are interested, you can sign up using an invitation link, here is 
Giorgio’s: https://www.qeios.com/invitation-to-join/researcher/314

If you have any questions/doubts or feedback, feel free to drop me an email at 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> or call me at +39 380 8912791.

Wishing you all a wonderful week,

Gabriele

—
Gabriele Marinello
Co-founder, Qeios Ltd

34, Old Barrack Yard, SW1X 7NP, London, UK
UK   +44 (0) 7426 853828
IT   +39 380 8912791
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
www.qeios.com <http://www.qeios.com> 

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