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Ok, say it is little bit less than impossible. Anyway, first I need to get it at least working...
Ok, so what do you mean here? Working?
Do you mean AFS? Kerberos 5, AKlog.exe, Windows 2k/XP or all of the above?
1. Do you have an existing AFS infrastructure that works?
2. Do you have an existing Kerberos 5 infrastructure that works?
3. Do you have Win2k/XP installed on one of your machines?
4. Do you have the OpenAFS client installed on the Win2k/XP machine?
5. Does the OpenAFS client work...out of the box, on the Win2k/XP machine?
6. Have you installed the MIT Kerberos for Windows software to get Kerberos 5 tickets?
7. Are your Win2k/XP machines members of a Windows Active Directory domain?
8. Have you setup the Active Directory server and Win2k/XP machines to trust Kerberos realm?
9. Irregardless of AFS, can you logon to your Win2k/XP machines with your Kerberos realm password?
10. If all of the above is not pre-prepped, then you haven't even gotten half way there yet.
Btw, to your previous question about Win9x machines...no, we don't use Win9x at all in our environment. We transitioned to NT back in 1997, then to XP in 2002.
We are actually concerned about the future of the AFS client on the next version of Windows aka Longhorn. We are looking into other technologies just-in-case like NAS storage, NFSv4, etc.. I love AFS and would like to see it continue, but we have to live in the real world. The Windows OpenAFS client seems doomed. This SMB loop-back connection scheme is slow and the AFS service is prone to crashes. The service should be rewritten to actually support a Windows installable filesystem model. But, there doesn't seem to be any expertise in that area within the OpenAFS group. Heck, few people, including me, don't know enough about the way AFS itself works internally to help out. The source code base is a wreck. I'm even irritated that the OpenAFS'ers add new functionality in without much documentation about what it was done for and what systems it effects...like high security feature name mangling changes. Who decided that code should be changed? Who are these people making changes to the codebase without allowing a consensus to be held first?
...off soap box, sorry for the rant.
Btw, this is a mailing list. I'm subscribed to it. You don't need to reply directly to me, just reply to the mailing list please. Thanks.
Rodney
...on any of 2000/XP
platform. Any suggestions? Thank you.
lukkas
On 7 Jun 2003, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Nothing is "impossible". You may not like it, but it is most assuredly
> possible. It may not be the best option, or the easiest option, but it
> is certainly an option. Even if you've got 4-year-old PCs you should be
> able to upgrade. It's just a matter of time.
>
> I've seen sites upgrade 2000+ machines... every year... So only 200
> is far from "impossible".
>
> -derek
>
> Lukas Kubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The upgrade is impossible for me now. It would need to be done on 200
> > mid-aged computers. There >must< be some solution. I just can't find it.
> > The problem for me is I can't find any useful docs. I need to know:
> >
> > 1. Which K5 to download
> > 2. Which OpenAFS version to download
> > 3. Which (aklog.exe)??? to download and from where
> >
> > for both Windows 98 and XP and how to configure it.
> >
> > Now, I have an K5 and OpenAFS servers running on Debian Linux. The
> > kaserver is (by default OpenAFS install on Debian) not running.
> > Until now, every aklog crashed when I tried to start it.
> >
> > lukas
> >
> > On 7 Jun 2003, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >
> > > Windows 9x is dead. Upgrade to an OS that was released this century.
> > >
> > > -derek
> > >
> > > Lukas Kubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Thank you for the very useful source of information for me.
> > > > Did you also try to do the same on Windows 9x ?
> > > >
> > > > lukas
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Rodney M Dyer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 10:15 PM 6/6/2003 +0200, Lukas Kubin wrote:
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> > > > > >I absolutely agree. Is there any reason why it still hasn't been done?
> > > > > >I don't have much to say, since I'm just starting with OpenAFS/K5 but I
> > > > > >know this is what I need. I've spent this week just by filling mailing
> > > > > >lists looking for a solution how to enable Windows to mount AFS server
> > > > > >using K5 tickets. Unsuccessfully.
> > > > > >I'm not too skilled to help in programming it. Can I help any other way?
> > > > >
> > > > > For some reason this question keeps coming up again, and again, and again...
> > > > >
> > > > > We've been successful at using "aklog" within our IT group for Windows
> > > > > XP. It wasn't really that much of a pain...hind-sight actually.
> > > > >
> > > > > See...
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~rmdyer
> > > > >
> > > > > Once I got the hang of it, I can now download both OpenAFS and MIT
> > > > > Kerberos, and compile them with "aklog" all in one shot, within about an hour.
> > > > >
> > > > > The original "aklog.exe" from Ken H's site didn't work (it crashed good)
> > > > > because all of the Kerberos DLL entry points were screwed up since it was
> > > > > compiled with an older version of MIT Kerberos. The best thing to do is
> > > > > just compile all "clean", then all the dll entry points should match up
> > > > > perfectly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rodney
> > > > >
> > > > > Rodney M. Dyer
> > > > > Windows Systems Programmer
> > > > > Mosaic Computing Group
> > > > > William States Lee College of Engineering
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