On 9/27/07, John Hascall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > > > We aren't going to break existing deployments of AFS.
>
> > >    So all future releases of OpenAFS forever will support rxkad
> > >    and K4/DES-based tokens?  And there will be no way for a cell
> > >    to turn that off?  Really?
>
> > You have the source. You can always patch it. So that's obviously false.
>
>   Well, that's a tautology isn't it.   You can always say "we aren't going
>   to break it, you can always patch it yourself".


We aren't going to break it is not you aren't going to break it.

I can't stop you from shooting yourself in the foot, but I'm not interested
in helping. I've made that point in those words before.

You have a point, but I don't think it's the point you've been presenting.

> But there's literally no one with AFS deployed now whose clients are ready
> > for this transition.
>
>   Today isn't the point.  Presumably, someday people *will* start to
>   transition.  And, barring a worldwide flag-day, cells *will* make
>   the transition at different times.  Somebody *will* be the first
>   one to delete their "afs" principal.


Yup. And then old clients get unauth access only.

  Previously in this discussion it was said you need to upgrade all
>   your servers before you start upgrading your clients.  So if, (on
>   that day that some other cell deletes "afs"), you haven't progressed
>   far enough in your transition to where you can upgrade your clients,
>   it sounds to me like you are in trouble.


Only if you want authenticated access.

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