Our "administrators" only use the non-informational vos commands through wrappers that present AFS space as a project-based managed entity. "vos" itself needs a more thorough understanding of volumes and mount points to be used by those middle-layer admins.

As vos needs "hard" privileges to do anything {harm|use}ful the discussion about how beginner-friendly the interface should be is a bit like drilling little holes into the seatpost of your bicycle in order to save weight rather than slimming the hugely overweighted "motor".

The guys trusted with enough super-cow powers so that they can actually do a "vos split" better understand what volumes are, how the file space builds up, and most important, what the caveats are (quota, linux "find"s, ACL inheritance, make, etc.)

I guess had Hartmut from the start implemented a -dirname argument with a *relative* directory name (that's what I would expect per gut feeling) for comfort we wouldn't discuss this. Anything more fancy would look rather odd in the traditional spartanic look.


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Rainer Toebbicke
European Laboratory for Particle Physics(CERN) - Geneva, Switzerland
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