Hey I'm just passing along what I know. You don't have to take my word for 
anything. I would rather you or Andrew talk to the kernel guy at Oracle. I 
asked our Solaris admin (I don't open tickets with Oracle) if he could arrange 
such a thing. He said the only way he can communicate with them is though their 
ticketing system. 

Derrick Brashear wrote:
> I'm not surprised, tho given Oracle has not bothered to give OpenAFS anything 
> I guess they expect us to take your word for it.
> 
> Yes, afsd is not really interested in exiting and would prefer unmount to 
> succeed
> 
> Derrick
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:02 PM, "Patricia O'Reilly" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I may butcher this a bit as I am not a kernel person. Reboot on Solaris will 
>> not work, period -- with or without the patch. This is not good for our 
>> environment as customers expect reboot to work the way it always has.
>>
>> You can use the init scripts and all will be well unless you have an 
>> application that takes an inordinately long time to stop. We have a large 
>> automount map. Solaris goes through everything in the mnttab file umounting 
>> one at a time, serially. 
>>
>> We want our customers to be able to happily reboot. The alternative is that 
>> they bug us about how afs sucks and is preventing their machines from 
>> shutting down.
>>
>> Oracle gave our Solaris contact an appcert program to run on the afsd to see 
>> if it met their API specs on how a kernel app should behave. AFS failed that 
>> certification. Oracle holds AFS is not doing the right thing. Sun's reboot 
>> kills all user processes successfully except afsd. Oracle says that the 
>> afsd's are not user processes that never exit, they are really kernel 
>> threads and not user processes at all.
>>
>> We need Sun's reboot to make an exception in AFSes case and stop waiting 
>> indefinitely for afsd to go down.
>>
>> --patty
>>
>> Derrick Brashear wrote:
>>> without looking I am betting those are slated for 1.4.15 which is probably 
>>> about a month out
>>>
>>> Derrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Jeff Blaine <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2011 3:18 PM, Andrew Deason wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:10:54 -0800
>>>>> Patricia O'Reilly<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with the patch the wait is about an hour with the init script.
>>>>> To be clear, you mean it takes that long for all of the scripts to run,
>>>>> right? The OpenAFS script itself doesn't take an hour.
>>>> Patty,
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I applied the patches just now to 1.4.14 and
>>>> shutdown -g0 -y -i6 works properly for us (comes down
>>>> properly within 1 minute).
>>>>
>>>> Devs: What's the timeframe to see these patches in an
>>>> official 1.4.x release?  Any idea?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
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