I would have too think that after all this time whatever license there is has 
been overtaken by events.


What would IBM do - sue a penniless entity? IBM is not being damaged, in fact 
its users running IBM PCs and other hardware have benefited from the free 
support.


I look at any agreement as a "bait and switch" that enabled IBM to relieve 
itself from the cost of supporting a defective product.


In fact IBM licensed a "Pig in a poke".


Take the ball and run with it.


Tedc

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Can the OpenAFS folks work on kAFS? I was under the impression that they were 
"tainted" by having read the IBM-provided code.

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Brandon Allbery 
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Not until someone adds pioctl support to it.

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Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] compile fails kernel version 4.4.0-1-default

Would it be appropriate to force a move to kafs now?

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Benjamin Kaduk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:31 PM
To: Michael Laß
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] compile fails kernel version 4.4.0-1-default

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, Michael Laß wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Am 23.01.2016 um 18:22 schrieb Benjamin Kaduk 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
> >
> > Though the patches linked there are sufficient to permit the build
> > to complete, there are some more subtle behavior changes in the
> > kernel in that some of the splice functions will now return
> > ERESTARTSYS if there is any signal pending in the current process.
> > In particular, there are presumed to be codepaths for which we do
> > not have proper error handling, that could lead to data loss.
> > Further analysis is needed (which I am not prepared to undertake at 
> > present).
>
> It seems like you were spot on with this. Some Arch Linux users have been 
> brave enough to test OpenAFS with these patches on Linux 4.4. One reported a 
> data corruption issue now. Quote from 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/openafs/:
>
> > I tried the patch and I get problems. When I do checkout a different branch 
> > of my software from a git repository things fail and I'm left with a 
> > corrupted workspace. The log files shows the following message:
> > kernel: afs: Lost contact with file server ... in cell ... (code
> > -512) (all multi-homed ip addresses down for the server)
> > kernel: afs: failed to store file (network problems)
> > kernel: afs: file server ... in cell ... is back up (code 0)
> > (multi-homed address; other same-host interfaces may still be down)
>
>
> Guess what error core -512 is… Yep, it’s -ERESTARTSYS.
>
> So there is definitely some additional work required for Linux 4.4.

Hi Michael,

Thank you for reporting this back to the list.  To the list members:

I would like to point out that no openafs developer has stated that they are 
working on this issue, and it appears that a proper fix will require 
modifications through many different parts of the cache manager; that is, it 
will be an invasive change that requires substantial development effort.  There 
is a real risk that OpenAFS will not be able to support kernels from the 4.4 
series and newer -- the openafs package is slated for removal from Debian 
testing in just three weeks.

If there are sites that will be adversely affected by the lack of a functioning 
openafs client for linux kernel 4.4 or newer, it will be easier if they can 
contribute resources now, rather than months from now when these kernels make 
their way into the linux distributions deployed at these sites.

-Ben
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