On Nov 16, 2017, at 07:06 , Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:02:15PM -0500, Matt Vander Werf wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Are there any updates or progress on a potential fix for this issue?
>> Anything we can do to help figure things out?
> 
> This topic was on the agenda for our release-team meeting yesterday.

Well, it has been for the last couple of weeks.

> If I remmber correctly, multiple developers have gotten fairly
> reliable ways to reproduce the issue locally.
> It also seems that as a workaround, reverting
> https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/c/12451/ is likely to reduce the
> likelihood of triggering events.

Yes, but there's at least one known client configuration (small stat cache, 
-disable-dynamic-vcaches) for which reverting that change actually makes things 
worse.

I ran a number of tests again today. I was unable to trigger any issue with the 
EL7.3 kernel, neither with OpenAFS 1.6.20 nor 1.6.21.1 nor 1.6.21.1 with the 
change in question reverted. I was able to trigger the getcwd issue or the 
other one (a git clone into AFS space failing right away) with the EL7.4 
kernel, depending on circumstances. We do have a problem with the 7.4 kernel, 
with or without that change.

The following could be complete nonsense, so please correct me: The best bet 
for sites getting desperate is probably to increase the minimum stat cache size 
beyond typical actual use on the client.

- Stephan

>> We are running into more and more users encountering the issue on systems
>> we have updated, forcing us to have to downgrade the kernel on them yet as
>> well (including the system we were able to reproduce it on and test with
>> before). Is there any other information we might provide before we do that?
> 
> Given the assumption that developers are reproducing the same
> situation that you are, hopefully there is not a need for additional
> information from the production sites.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben

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