6. CIR....
what's wrong with CIR?

Igor

On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 11:36 -0400, qiancheng shen wrote:
> Dear Geoffrey,
>          I appreciate your help very much ! Thank you for your time.
>          At first I thought it is a very simple problem, so I am
> confident to find such a tool when a chemist friend asked me for help.
> But maybe you are right, there is no such opensource tool exists. 
>          I have tried many tools, and maybe I should give a list and
> share my experience on this problem.
> 
>          1. OPSIN , an open parser for IPUAC name. It can convert
> IUPAC name to structure but not vice versa.
>              (P.S. You can also use OPSIN with CDK to generate
> molecule images from IUPAC name.)
>          2. ChemDraw. It can generate IUPAC name from structure, but
> batch mode seems to be inavailable.(not opensource)
>          3. Openbabel.  It can convert structure to InChI name, but
> not IUPAC name.
>          4. OpenEye. Yes, it has a great tool to do this task, but not
> opensource.
>          5. Marvin Sketch. You can insert such IUPAC Name while
> drawing a molecule, but not opensource.
> 
> Thank you for all your help!!
> 
> 
> Shen
> 
> 2011/4/5 Geoffrey Hutchison <ge...@geoffhutchison.net>
>         
>         On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:31 AM, qiancheng shen wrote:
>         
>         > Thank you very much!! But all these tools are not suitable
>         for me......Any other ideas?
>         
>         
>         You also asked on CCL.net and several people also pointed you
>         to the NIH Chemical Resolver. Noel's link pointed out that
>         Cinfony and Webel can provide you with a Python solution to
>         query the Resolver and get a name. It won't work for all
>         molecules, only the 16 million or so in PubChem.
>         
>         Put frankly, I dont expect this be solved in the open source
>         space in the near term, unless the NIH or other government
>         organization sponsors it. It's tedious, difficult work to code
>         an IUPAC naming system. It has lots of tricky corner cases
>         (even the commercial ones have problems). People are willing
>         to pay money for such a solution, so there's a clear
>         capitalist incentive to write something like Lexichem, sell
>         it, and be financially rewarded for the work.
>         
>         Name to structure has a clear benefit for OPSIN and is
>         technically an easier problem: parse the chemical name into
>         determining structure. There may be many names for one
>         structure, but that's not a big deal. OPSIN was also used to
>         solve an obvious problem -- machine parsing journal articles
>         for data mining.
>         
>         Structure to name has been requested for Open Babel, basically
>         forever, but IMHO it's out of the scope of the project.
>         
>         Cheers,
>         -Geoff
> 



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