I get a key like 'agZvd296em9yDgsSB2NvdW50cnkYzQEM'

2009/11/16 Bassil Karam <[email protected]>

> Rainer,
>
> What do you get for GoogleKey when you do 'GoogleKey =
> GoogleWrite (myObj,myKind)'?
>
> Baz
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Rainer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Good point Baz:
>> At the moment I use GoogleWrite(MyObj,getMetaData
>> (MyObj).name,'MyKey123'). Why must I give the name of my object as an
>> argument, when the function GoogleWrite should be able to fetch it
>> itselve from the first argument MyObj?
>>
>> I furthermore must recall my latest blog here: keyName NOT EQUALS
>> googleKey!!! I still think that the implementation of the unique keys
>> of objects in the datastore is confusing!
>>
>> First of all, you can NOT use the 'GoogleKey' which is generated by
>> the function 'GoogleWrite'. If you try 'GoogleKey = GoogleWrite
>> (myObj,myKind)' and in a next request you use the GoogleKey to do an
>> update like 'GoogleKey2 = GoogleWrite(myObj,myKind,GoogleKey)', there
>> will be 2 objects in the datastore, and 'GoogleKey2' NOT equals
>> 'GoogleKey'!
>>
>> Secondly, if you generate a unique key yourselve (f.i. myUniqueKey =
>> CreateUUID()), you must store this unique key as a property in your
>> object in order to be able to update this object in the datastore. Let
>> me explain: I save a new object to the datastore with 'GoogleWrite
>> (myObj,myKind,myUniqueKey)'. In a next request, I must read
>> myUniqueKey from a (listed) object, in order to be able to update the
>> object in the datastore by doing a 'GoogleWrite
>> (myObj,myKind,myUniqueKey)'. I think that's really stupid, if there's
>> already a GoogleKey!
>>
>> And now I am back at my first point, that you can NOT use the
>> GoogleKey!
>>
>> So, what I am trying to say is that the idea of having a GoogleKey is
>> really great, because you would not have to store a unique key in your
>> object. But that only works if you can first do a GoogleKey =
>> GoogleWrite(myObj) and than later on use this GoogleKey to do a
>> GoogleWrite(myObj,GoogleKey), and NOT GoogleWrite(myObj,keyName)!!
>>
>> Vince, could you please respond to this post and let me know what you
>> think, I would really appreciate that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rainer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 8:55 pm, Bassil Karam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > My pleasure :)
>> >
>> > One suggestion I would make to Vince is to reverse the positions of the
>> > attributes "kind" and "keyName" and to not make "kind" required if
>> "keyName"
>> > is specified. For example, if I wanted to save an object, I could do:
>> >
>> > googleWrite(MyObj);
>> >
>> > This will automatically populate the kind and the keyName, but if I had
>> my
>> > own key name, it seems I should be able to simply provide it:
>> >
>> > googleWrite(MyObj, 'MyKeyName');
>> >
>> > With the "kind" automatically populated as before. Why should I have to
>> now
>> > specify it just because I have a key?
>> >
>> > Similarly if you invoke googleWrite on the component itself:
>> >
>> > MyObj.googleWrite('MyKeyName')
>> >
>> > I think keyname is going to be specified MUCH more often than kind and
>> > should therefore precede kind in the attribute list and also not be tied
>> to
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Just some thoughts,
>> > Baz
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Rainer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks Baz, that one helped me out.
>> >
>> > > I didn't get it into my grey cells that keyName = googleKey. Of
>> > > course, it's not a problem to use a kind, but I didn't know that you
>> > > can use a GoogleKey as a KeyName to update an object with GoogleWrite.
>> >
>> > > Great, let's put my model together this night!
>> >
>> > > Thanks again Baz.
>> >
>> > > Rainer.
>> >
>> > > On Nov 16, 6:25 pm, Bassil Karam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > Rainer,
>> >
>> > > > For your first question you say that you have the google key in a
>> hidden
>> > > > form field. So that means you can do:
>> >
>> > > > googleWrite(MyCFC, 'MyKind', 'MyKey123');
>> >
>> > > > What's the trouble? Is it that you would prefer to do something
>> like:
>> >
>> > > > MyCFC.setGoogleKey('MyKey123');
>> > > > MyCFC.googleWrite();
>> >
>> > > > So that you don't have to specify a kind?
>> >
>> > > > Baz
>> >
>> > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Rainer <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > Sorry for my mistake...
>> > > > > In my option 2) I know, that I can update an object with
>> GoogleWrite
>> > > > > (kind,keyName), so that's not my question there.
>> > > > > My question in option 2) is:
>> > > > > How do I get the kind and Keyname when I do a listing?
>> > > > > - aUsers = GoogleQuery('select from User');
>> > > > > - loop over aUsers
>> > > > > - have an User object, can I do than a User.getKind() and
>> > > > > User.getKeyName()?
>> >
>> > > > > Rainer.
>> >
>> > > > > On 16 nov, 10:18, Rainer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > Vince,
>> >
>> > > > > > Coul you please clarify me on this subject, I don't get 'the
>> circle
>> > > > > > closed'.
>> >
>> > > > > > When I follow the documentation athttp://
>> > > > > wiki.openbluedragon.org/wiki/index.php/GoogleAppEngine:Datastore,
>> > > > > > I can't seem to make a closing structure of my logic.
>> >
>> > > > > > 1) When I choose to go for the googleKey (which I higly prefer,
>> > > > > > because it's generated by the datastore), I do the following:
>> > > > > > - create an object from my User.cfc (bean); User = CreateObject
>> > > > > > ('component','model.user.User').init()
>> > > > > > - write it to the datastore; googleKey = GoogleWrite(User);
>> > > > > > - read from the datastore; User = googleRead(googleKey);
>> > > > > > - get list of users; aUsers = GoogleQuery('select from User')
>> > > > > > But what if I have a the details of a user in a form (with the
>> > > > > > googleKey in a hidden input), and I post this form.
>> > > > > > How do I than create a User object that 'knows' the googleKey so
>> that
>> > > > > > a GoogleWrite() will update an exisiting object in the
>> datastore?
>> > > > > > Should I first do a 'User = googleRead(googleKey)' and than
>> update
>> > > the
>> > > > > > properties with my form properties, and than
>> 'GoogleWrite(User)'?
>> > > > > > Or can I set the googleKey in my User object with a
>> 'setGoogleKey()'
>> > > > > > function, or something like that?
>> >
>> > > > > > 2) When I choose to go for the combination kind/keyName, I do
>> the
>> > > > > > following:
>> > > > > > - create an object from my User.cfc (bean); User = CreateObject
>> > > > > > ('component','model.user.User').init(kind,keyName)
>> > > > > > - write it to the datastore; GoogleWrite(User,kind,keyName);
>> > > > > > - read from the datastore; User = googleRead(kind,keyName);
>> > > > > > - get list of users; aUsers = GoogleQuery('select from User');
>> > > > > > But what if I have a the details of a user in a form (with the
>> kind
>> > > > > > and keyName in a hidden input), and I post this form.
>> > > > > > How do I than create a User object that 'knows' the the kind and
>> > > > > > keyName so that a GoogleWrite() will update an exisiting object
>> in
>> > > the
>> > > > > > datastore? Should I first do a 'User = googleRead(kind,keyName)'
>> and
>> > > > > > than update the properties with my form properties, and than
>> > > > > > 'GoogleWrite(User)'?
>> > > > > > Or can I set the kind and keyName in my User object with
>> > > 'setGoogleKind
>> > > > > > () and setGoogleKeyName()' functions, or something like that?
>> >
>> > > > > > Maybe, I am overseeing something very badly, but after read the
>> doc a
>> > > > > > couple of time, and trying some different code, I coul not come
>> up
>> > > > > > with a solution.
>> >
>> > > > > > Thank you in advance for helping me out,
>> >
>> > > > > > Rainer.
>> >
>> > > > > > On 14 nov, 10:52, Rainer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > Great! ... but, how do I know when I try to insert a new
>> object
>> > > what
>> > > > > > > the new int (max int + 1) is for this specific object's
>> keyName?
>> >
>> > > > > > > And if I start using a UUID, is it unique enough to be sure it
>> was
>> > > not
>> > > > > > > used before in a save action to the datastore?
>> >
>> > > > > > > Questions... questions...
>> >
>> > > > > > > Rainer.
>> >
>> > > > > > > On Nov 14, 2:01 am, Bassil Karam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > I think I read somewhere that an int works a lot faster on
>> gae,
>> > > but I
>> > > > > could
>> > > > > > > > be completely mistaken. Anyone know? But otherwise, yeah: )
>> >
>> > > > > > > > On Nov 13, 2009 4:54 PM, "Rainer" <[email protected]
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > Okay, so I don't rely on googleKey, but instead, I create my
>> own
>> > > > > > > > unique key, like maybe a UUID ?!
>> >
>> > > > > > > > On Nov 14, 1:43 am, Bassil Karam <[email protected]>
>> wrote: >
>> > > Hey
>> > > > > Rainer,
>> > > > > > > > you don't need to read f...
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Rainer <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
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