Denard Springle wrote:
And no, Alan, I was not aiming anything at you. I forget sometimes
that people are unfamiliar with how google groups (and most
newsgroups) work.

Let it be said now that none of my posting are to be taken personally
and none of them are 'aimed' at anyone at all
Denny, i appreciate you posting, but to be honest, even with this statement, it could be read that you are inferring that i do not know how google groups (or mailing lists) work. But in the interests of unity I won't infer that.

I have re-read your original post and I am sorry, I cannot see how else I could have read it as directed to me. Many people emailed/IM'd off list expressing their shock at the post. So it just wasn't me that read it in that light.

I suspect your heart is in the right place and the post does remind of a person in the old days, dear Charlie Arehart, who would also offer similar words of wisdom and guidance, but he worded it in such a way, that it sometimes came off as patronizing. It wasn't his intent at all, but you had to know Charlie first, before you realized that.

There is responsibility in both the WRITER and the READER when it comes to any form of electronic communication.
I am merely here to offer
what I know when I can for others to learn from, and am not interested
in any wars, arguments, flames or other such personality conflicts.
We're not in a competition folks - we're a community of users of one
of the greatest RAD environments on the planet (for all it's yay's and
nay's) helping each other along.
Completely agree, and I think I can speak for 99% of the people here that we all share that same view.

The other 1% are the Adobe people lurking secretly on the list who ARE in competition, and who wish to undermine the efforts of the open source community where possible, with their off-list emails to those they believe are in a position of authority in the community.

Maybe a WikiLeaks expose is in their future, with all this data making it out to the open one day will be finally bring together true unity in the CFML community.

Java has lived, thrived and prospered with multiple J2EE engines without any of the nonsense going on here. It amazes me why the CFML cannot do this.

So Denny, more power to you, for helping spread the word of how great CFML is as a language and a platform. We need more people like you, that are willing to stand up, discuss, and help more people coming through the ranks. I hope you will be coming to OpenCFSummit so we can continue this discussion in person, face-2-face.

thanks

a

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