Hi Alan,

You say "NO" but the rest of your reply says "YES."
I'm sorry, but that's the way I read it.

We have a problem with the "Nightly Build" process: there have been a
number of times when I have seen people say something is broken in the
nightly build, and I can disregard it because I don't use the nightly build.
I can't afford to have something break in our system because we loaded 
something
from a nightly build.
For this reason I believe it is prudent to have a "stable release" from 
time to
time. I will only run software on a production server if it comes from a 
stable release which
has been around and tested for a while, and I am relatively certain that it 
is not going to
fail us.

I know this is not a democracy but that's my 2 cents.

Our company runs on OpenBD--we have written lots of code that we know works 
in
that environment. 

Is there something I could do to help?

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 9:48:51 AM UTC-6, Alan Williamson wrote:
>
> Charles thank you for your email. 
>
> The question is OpenBD dead?   NO. 
>
> There has been no stable release for a number of years, and there won't 
> be another one.   I stated in an email many years ago that we wouldn't 
> be releasing any more official releases, but instead instructed people 
> to use the "nightly" release.   The code base is that stable and mature, 
> we are not making any huge changes to it. 
>
> In short ... it just works.   aw2.0 is still using OpenBD actively in 
> their projects as are many thousands of others.    We are make small 
> changes/fixes as and when they are reported.   But the reality is that 
> show-stopping bugs are rare and far between these days. 
>
> But with the advent of richer/fatter clients .. the role of the server 
> side is diminishing.   That is a sad fact, but the reality of web 
> development today. 
>
> So do we want to evolve and add new features to OpenBD?   Well to be 
> frank yes, but no at the same time.  We don't want to waste time 
> building new features only for the web development world to move forward 
> and make that irrelevant (CFWINDOW/CFFORM anyone?!?!?). 
>
> To add to Marcus's point ... the project is hosted in GitHub.   That 
> means it is available to ANYONE to pick up and add new features. We are 
> more than happy to review and accept submissions to the core branch.   
> There is ZERO barrier to contribution. 
>
> At the end of the day, every user of OpenBD (or any software) has to 
> decide if it is for them or not.   Where is your web development going? 
>    Where are you innovating?   What type of apps are you being asked to 
> write now compared to what you were doing maybe 5-10 years ago?   These 
> are all questions you need to be asking on a weekly basis to make sure 
> you are keeping relevant and servicing your clients to the best. 
>
> Hope that helps. 
>
> On 17-Apr-16 12:42, Skellington wrote: 
> > Hello, 
> > I'm really curious about this. Is OpenBD dead, or will the product 
> > grow and evolve? There has not been a stable release in a couple of 
> > years. The release notes used to be updated with dates and no longer 
> > do. I'm really on the fence here and in no way am I knocking the 
> > OpenBD product. I've been using it since it was released and it's 
> > worked really well for me. My real growing concern is if it's not 
> > being developed and it's kinda being sun setted should I be looking at 
> > migrating to something like Lucee? 
>
>

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