Juanpa, I propose to be pragmatic. It is up to RM team (who suffers the problem) to decide if a build failure is due to a lazy practice or not. There are clear cases of lazy practice: code does not compile, syschronize terminology/translation is not executed, pl/sql code is not oracle/postgres compatible, etc.). In your example below RM -that needs to know what is the root cause of the problem- will not count it as a wrong commit.
The result I expect from my proposal to penalize developers is: -reduce the downtime due to wrong commits: developers will solve these issues asap (or they will be penalized) -reduce the number of wrong commits: developers will be specially careful after they commit a wrong changset (or they will be penalized) so discipline will be gradually and smoothly put in practice by our team But if you find this policy difficult to apply let's forget it, it is not worth the discussion here Ismael -----Mensaje original----- De: Juan Pablo Aroztegi [mailto:juanpablo.arozt...@openbravo.com] Enviado el: martes, 15 de septiembre de 2009 15:53 Para: openbravo-development@lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Openbravo-development][DB-Consistency-Check]-ERP-pi-pgsql-full > [Still Failing!] Hi Isma, > -the incentive for developers to make it right is write access to pi: RM > will remove write access privileges in pi repository for two weeks to a > developer who: > -commits a change that breaks nightly build and does not fix it within the > next 48 hours > -commits two changes that break nightly build within two consecutive > weeks, no matter how fast it is fixed later I agree with the 48h limit to fix the situation. But instead I would reduce it to 24h. If you push a commit that breaks something, you can always backout the commit, study it with calm, fix it and push it again. However I'm not convinced with the other measure of counting 2 build fails to penalize someone. I mean, do we consider *any* failed build? Example: * I commit something that passes all the possible tests in my computer. * I push it and it fails on a build machine because it's 64bit, and my machine was 32bit. Counting which failure are "punishable" and which is counter-productive and too time consuming. What do you think? Juan Pablo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Openbravo-development mailing list Openbravo-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbravo-development ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Openbravo-development mailing list Openbravo-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbravo-development