Hi Holger,

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Holger Hans Peter Freyther
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 06:29:00PM -0500, Tom Tsou wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Holger Hans Peter Freyther
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > SDRs provide the greatest flexibility but unless you have specific
>> > RF filters in your frontend you will not pass the harmonized norms
>> > of the European Union for GSM.
>>
>> I think this statement is quite dated.
>
> Ah cool. Can you point me to papers/text showing how the n-th harmonic
> is being removed from the spectrum?

Do you mean carrier harmonics?

>From what we know, to follow general regulation, no noise (including
those harmonics) must be above:
-30 dBm @ 30 kHz span above 1 GHz
-36 dBm @ 30 kHz span below 1 GHz

In case of UmTRX without an amplifier it's enough to use a ceramic or
SAW duplexer to bring harmonics below those levels.

For those buying UmTRX's as a lab package of universal UmDESKs, we
offer to buy an external ceramic duplexers. These improves coverage
and solves the out of band noise issues.

For those buying band-specific UmDESK's, we use SAW duplexers, which
are even more efficient in reducing out of band noise.

>> A calibrated USRP N200 running osmo-trx passes RF spectrum and
>> modulation accuracy requirements of 3GPP 05.05 by very large margins
>> and is competitive with commercial GSM equipment in this regard. Other
>> SDR devices are also capable to varying degrees.
>
> The policy of FCC vs. European Union is quite different. There are more
> norms that apply in Europe.

You're obviously more proficient in European norms. Could you point me
to a link where we could find these differences between the ETSI
published GSM Standard and European harmonized norms?

It would be a very good addition to the OpenBSC wiki's "Standards" page.

-- 
Regards,
Alexander Chemeris.
CEO, Fairwaves LLC / ООО УмРадио
http://fairwaves.ru

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