Hello Ralph,

Good idea, thank you for the feedback. I'll test this theory as soon as I'm 
back home next week. It makes a lot of sense to me, so I'm really curious to 
see if it works in my case as well.

Cheers,
Domi


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <[email protected]>
> To: "Domonkos Tomcsányi" <[email protected]>, "Sandi Suhendro" 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: "openbsc" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 9:01:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Commercial MSs do not see the network

> Another thing, usually even a bad clock is OK, when the phone can’t see any
> commercial network. Quite often they sync their clock on some commercial
> carrier on power-up and then can’t see any networks with bigger frequency
> offset. My solution is placing the phone in a metal cookie box that shields it
> from receiving any commercial network, but the SDR right next to it has enough
> power to get through. Then the phone starts a more exhaustive search with
> sweeping its TCXO over a bigger range. Once the phone has registered I take it
> out, and it keeps the connection without issues until phone or BS are
> restarted, then the same issue applies.

> Ralph.

> From: OpenBSC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Tomcsányi,
> Domonkos
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:07 AM
> To: Sandi Suhendro <[email protected]>
> Cc: openbsc <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Commercial MSs do not see the network

> Hi Sandi and Joachim,

> @Sandi: no worries about spelling :).

> @both: thanks for the idea, it is what I was thinking about initially as well.

> I will check if I can get a good 10 MHz reference from some device. I was just
> informed however that Exynos devices do not need to be examined during my
> tests, so I’ll probably put this on hold for now. The lab at our HQ also has a
> UmTRX if I recall correctly, so worst case I could always ask them to do the
> tests. I just wanted to make sure it is the HW setup, not the config causing
> the trouble :). Now I’m confident that it is the lack of the clock source.

> Thank you all for chiming in.

> Cheers,

> Domi

>> 2020. febr. 13. dátummal, 2:11 időpontban Sandi Suhendro < [
>> mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > írta:
>> Hi Domi,

>> Sorry for wrong spell. Wkwkk...

>> Have you try with GPSDO?

>> Some phone cannot sync or weak with the wave. Worth to try :)

>> regards,
>> Sandi / DUO

>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 02:16 Tomcsányi, Domonkos < [ 
>> mailto:[email protected] |
>> [email protected] ] > wrote:

>>> Hello Sandi and Neels,

>>> @Neels: :-) \o thanks.

>>> @Sandi:

>>> Thank you for the idea. I have changed the attenuation to oml, and I could
>>> observe the following:

>>> All Qcomm based devices now see the network and with a bit of luck they 
>>> could
>>> register: Xiaomi Mi5, Samsung A90 5G, iPhone X.

>>> However any Exynos based device (S6, S7, S8) simply refuses to even detect 
>>> the
>>> network. Any time I put in a sysmocom SIM in a Qcomm based device it happily
>>> goes on the new network. On the other hand if the same SIM card is plugged 
>>> into
>>> an Exynos device it shows No service and even with manual search it cannot
>>> detect the network.

>>> I assume with other radio hardware (e.g. umTRX) there are no issues with 
>>> Exynos
>>> devices, so it is most probably the USRP not being good enough I think.

>>> However if anybody has any other ideas I’d still be happy to get any 
>>> feedback
>>> and try things out :).

>>> Cheers,

>>> Domi

>>>> 2020. febr. 12. dátummal, 14:20 időpontban Sandi Suhendro < [
>>>> mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > írta:
>>>> Dear Tomi,

>>>> have you try to set attenuation set to OML and osmo-trx?

>>>> osmotrx rx-gain 30
>>>> osmotrx tx-attenuation oml

>>>> Im not sure but I saw your attenuation is set. :-)

>>>> I think I face the problem before but using Motorola C115/117 cannot 
>>>> connect,
>>>> but it was resolved now long time ago with newer osmo-bts.

>>>> regards,

>>>> Sandi

>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 7:10 PM Neels Hofmeyr < [ 
>>>> mailto:[email protected] |
>>>> [email protected] ] > wrote:

>>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 09:42:42AM +0100, Tomcsányi, Domonkos wrote:
>>>>>> p.s. It is simply awesome to experience the power of opensource when 
>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>> with 2G. Every step of the way above I was using software created and 
>>>>>> shared by
>>>>> > you guys. It is a great feeling, had to share it :-).

>>>>> Thanks Domi!!
>>>>> I hope someone has answers your questions, I don't but wanted to wave back
>>>>> anyway \o_

>>>>> ~N
>>>> --

>>>> Best Regards,

>>>> Sandi

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