Hi Woodchuck et al,

I see you're a Woodchuck indeed!

Nice to see there are people like you around... when I think that my
friends think I am a kind of wood chuck like you because I haven't run
windows for some seven years, I must laugh

Don't complain about pcs! Think of what people use to "work"! MacOSX,
for instance, that FreeBSD corrupted thing. Somebody brainwashed me
here at the Institute and told me I should ask for a Mac (the
institute provides us with a laptop to work) because it was like a
magic *nix box in which everything was working out of the box (of
course, propietary things work like that) and since I became father
recently I though "well, what the heck, let's try it, I don't want to
spend too many time with a machine and I prefer to spend it with my
child".

After two weeks I could not stand it any more and I installed
GNU/Linux on it because you will not believe it, but if you want a
MacOSX box running the normal-everyday applications, like zsh, tex,
gv, a DECENT TERMINAL you have to spend something like 40 times more
time than installing OBSD on a spectrum 48k...  But still under
GNU/Linux many things were not working, among them the airport extreme
wlan card... and as I said, it's crucial for me... In any case it was
such a pain, sooooo slow, sooo noisy, so hot, so...  that I gave it
back and asked for a glorious pc and got a fujitsu siemens lifebook
p7010 and I tell you something: it's the best laptop I've ever had.

Now I want it running O'BSD!

The O'bsd mailing list has been kind of frustrating... I was expecting
something miraculous but it's not much from what I get out of this
newbies list...

Bye,

Pau

2006/11/28, Woodchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Vim Visual wrote:
>
> > Woodchuck, you're talking in Chinese! I'm doing my best and I'm
> > reading the Absolute book in the tram everyday but I guess an easier
> > solution for dmesg would be to use LAN or a flash usb gimmick ;)
>
> Heh.  That was actually written in Old Hackish. I'm a fossil.  I
> own two real VT-101 terminals.  I actually have one wired up and
> in intermittent use.  I'm sentimental about them.  It's worth it
> once to use vi on the keyboard/screen that it was (probably) designed
> on.  (The escape key is convenient, and CTRL is where the PeeCee
> weirdly put the useless "capslock" key.  There is no "ALT".)
>
> But linking two com ports for either login via a terminal emulator
> or setting up ppp networking is a Worthy Exercise.  If the LAN
> won't start, then you need a console.  It is considered Bad Form
> to boot a "rescue diskette" if other means are still available.
> (Like if you do something -- say, run Mozilla :-) -- that crashes
> X and locks up your keyboard.  This can usually be fixed over
> a serial line without rebooting.  Rebooting = more Bad Form --
> I suspect that attitude is why the *nixes tend to be able to
> go so long without it.)
>
> One of the real drawbacks of the PeeCee architecture is its lack
> of a true console over a RS-232 port. (I mean one that works as
> console from power on.)  I guess now there are various rack-mount
> type servers that can do this.  I probably own two, but haven't
> gotten around to trying it.  That and an actual ROM *console* program
> that can *do* things.  A rescue diskette, actually, comes close to
> this, very close.  It's surprising what one can do with one in a
> pinch.  That the BSD one will get your network working, at least
> in a limited way, is something of a happy miracle.  That it is the
> same as the install/upgrade diskette is Very Happy.
>
> > I am starting to become addicted to OBSD and am looking forward to
>
> OpenBSD is orderly, like the barracks of an elite, high-morale
> regiment.  The amount of labor this saves in the long run is worth it.
> There are some people that just can't come to like this, though.
>
> > switching my production laptop OS to it asap but wlan is crucial for
> > me. Fortunately the crashbox and the production laptop have the same
> > wlan chip, so that when I've figured out what's the problem I will do
> > the move. The hardware is not broken because it worked pretty well
> > with the debian-based ubuntu
>
> I hear repeated rumors of wifi equipped, functional O'bsd systems.
> I have seen with my own eyes a NetBSD laptop with working wifi.
>
> > And yes, I have googled, yahooed and even googlebsd'ed but found
> > nothing... or I am blind
> >
> > I have posted the question to the OBSD mailing list misc... let's see
> > whether they throw me to the lion's pit :)
>
> Well, let's see what happens.
>
> Dave
> --
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>                a dozen more vex me!" -- Doctor Doom
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