Hi Thomas,

you said "we used OCF on the PC to access VOP Compliant Java Cards.".

i'm currently implementing such services and find very few facilities in 
OCF; release 1.2 introduces the interface SecurityDomain (in package 
opencard.opt.security) but that empty interface is far from standardized 
services (the OP 2.0 Card Implementation Specification provides description 
of all APDU commands involved in applet loading process, does nobody write 
an OCF service to wrap these commands ?)

the AppletManagerCardService interface give more specific behaviors but it 
still an interface, the VISA web site doesn't provide any OCF resources, 
did you plan to propose something or know if VISA is working on that ?

howover, VOP is the fundation of secure applet loading but it also provides 
Card Management capabilities (meaning audit of smartcard, 
configuration/contents of issued cards, ...) this will involve database 
connection in heterogenous environment, does OCF interested in such services ?

regards,
Sylvain Ferey.



At 18:29 22/02/00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



> >Is Visa Open Platform just an "extended" OpenCard with defined
> >Smartcard-capabilities ?
>
>No, VOP is a standard that defines things like how applications
>can be loaded to and managed on smart cards, e.g. for JavaCards.
>
> >What is VOP "more" than OpenCard ? Is it "more" ?
>
>VOP is an on-card standard, while OCF is a standard interface for
>programming off-card applications in Java.
>
>For example, we used OCF on the PC to access VOP Compliant Java Cards.
>
> >If not: what the hell is Visa Open Plarform ? :-)
>
>Look at the Visa Pages in the Internet, I guess they have some
>overview there.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Thomas
>
>Thomas Schaeck
>IBM Pervasive Computing Division - Smart Card Solutions
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>Erik-Oliver Blass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22.02.2000 15:10:11
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>Please respond to Erik-Oliver Blass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject:  [OCF]  OpenCard/JavaCard vs. Visa Open Platform
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>Dear all,
>
>although this is mentioned in the OpenCard FAQ, I do not understand
>the difference in concept between OpenCard with a JavaCard and
>Visa Open Platform.
>
>Is Visa Open Platform just an "extended" OpenCard with defined
>Smartcard-capabilities ?
>What is VOP "more" than OpenCard ? Is it "more" ?
>If not: what the hell is Visa Open Plarform ? :-)
>
>Maybe this is a philosophic question ?
>
>
>Regards,
>Erik
>
>
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