Hello Mike,
     
     if memory serves me correctly, the "clean" option
     of typical Makefiles removes "core dumps",
     *files* that are named "core". In the case of OCF, "core" is
     a *directory* which requires different options for "rm"
     to be removed.
     
     If your Makefile says "rm -f core" in the directory where
     core dumps are expected, no directory named core will be removed.
     
     Regarding your OS sources tree I guess that for each separate
     branch you use a specific Makefile, so branch specific problems
     could be solved there.
     
     Hope I didn't misunderstand you.
     
     Regards,
        Daniel Ciesinger
     


____________________________ Antwort-Abtrennung ________________________________
Betreff: Re: [OCF] Renaming OCF "core" directory
Autor:  MIME:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bei INTERNET
Datum:    06.08.99 01:42


Thomas,
     
> if I understand you right, you have the directory named "core" only on your 
> development machines, but you would only have a JAR-file on the systems you 
> deliver to your customers. Normally, it should not be necessary to run a
> program from the parent directory of "core", i.e. the directory "opencard". 
> 
> Is my interpretation correct, that problems would only occur when somebody 
> runs a program from the "opencard" directory of the opencard source tree on 
> one of your development machines and that program crashes ? In that case,
> the current directory structure would seem quite acceptable to me.
     
The problem I'm running into is that the OCF sources are in the 
same source tree as all the rest of our Solaris UNIX sources (since 
we are shipping OCF as a system service in our next OS release). 
The keepers of the UNIX sources have several rules for sources that 
are included in the OS source tree, one of which is that no files
or directories can be named "core", since over the years many scripts 
have been written to look for and remove files and directories
called "core" as part of the software build and release process.
     
>From a customer perspective, this isn't an issue since we only 
ship a jar file with the OCF classes in it.
     
> Renaming all packages would cause significant work for us to change the
> opencard implementation as well for all application programmers who would
> need to update all their OCF applications. Therefore, I would like to leave 
> the OCF package names as they are.
     
We could all decide that OCF V2.0 makes the package name change. 
Are there a lot of people using OCF in a production environment 
yet?
     
Anyway, I'm just collecting feedback from people on this to see if 
it's worth even submitting an RFE.
     
mike
     
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\cb1 \cf7      \cb7 \cf0 Hope I didn't misunderstand you.\
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\cb1 \cf7 Betreff: Re: [OCF] Renaming OCF "core" directory\
\cb1 \cf7 Autor:  MIME:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bei INTERNET\
\cb1 \cf7 Datum:    06.08.99 01:42\
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\cb1 \cf7 Thomas,\
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\cb1 \cf7 > if I understand you right, you have the directory named "core" only on your \
\cb1 \cf7 > development machines, but you would only have a JAR-file on the systems you \
\cb1 \cf7 > deliver to your customers. Normally, it should not be necessary to run a\
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\cb1 \cf7 > \
\cb1 \cf7 > Is my interpretation correct, that problems would only occur when somebody \
\cb1 \cf7 > runs a program from the "opencard" directory of the opencard source tree on \
\cb1 \cf7 > one of your development machines and that program crashes ? In that case,\
\cb1 \cf7 > the current directory structure would seem quite acceptable to me.\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 The problem I'm running into is that the OCF sources are in the \
\cb1 \cf7 same source tree as all the rest of our Solaris UNIX sources (since \
\cb1 \cf7 we are shipping OCF as a system service in our next OS release). \
\cb1 \cf7 The keepers of the UNIX sources have several rules for sources that \
\cb1 \cf7 are included in the OS source tree, one of which is that no files\
\cb1 \cf7 or directories can be named "core", since over the years many scripts \
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\cb1 \cf7 called "core" as part of the software build and release process.\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 From a customer perspective, this isn't an issue since we only \
\cb1 \cf7 ship a jar file with the OCF classes in it.\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 > Renaming all packages would cause significant work for us to change the\
\cb1 \cf7 > opencard implementation as well for all application programmers who would\
\cb1 \cf7 > need to update all their OCF applications. Therefore, I would like to leave \
\cb1 \cf7 > the OCF package names as they are.\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 We could all decide that OCF V2.0 makes the package name change. \
\cb1 \cf7 Are there a lot of people using OCF in a production environment \
\cb1 \cf7 yet?\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 Anyway, I'm just collecting feedback from people on this to see if \
\cb1 \cf7 it's worth even submitting an RFE.\
\cb1 \cf7      \
\cb1 \cf7 mike\
\cb1 \cf7      \
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