On 06/24/2016 02:30 AM, Linas Vepstas wrote:
    So I suppose what we want is to connect linguistic semantics (where
    the domain is ???) with experiential semantics (where the domain is
    traces of the universe).


Well, even for sensors, one has different kripke frames. for example "I
heard something go boom, but did not see anything happen" -- in the
sensory frame of hearing, there's a certain truth, but in the sensory
frame of sight, there is not.

Lets try that, using MemberLink

MemberLink
     SatisfyingSet
        $X
        Evaluation
           hearing-sensor-left-side
           Me-myself-I
           $X
     Evaluation sound@456 loud

Is that OK? Something like that?

I don't know what you mean by "traces of the universe"

It doesn't have to be traces, technically it would be possible universes (elements of an unknown probabilitized space Omega). But if time exists in some universes then yes there are gonna look like traces.

I have more to say but I fear that it's gonna be a diversion before the July demo (at least for myself, I've already spend to much of time thinking about it), so I prefer to let that aside for now and focus on the chicken feet or pizza demo which doesn't really need that anyway.

Nil


    Or perhaps we want to bypass this experiential semantics (though
    when OpenPsi need to take a decision, it really needs a way or
    another to get back to this experimential semantics). So I'm really
    confused.


Not sure what you mean here. What does "get back to experiential
semantics" mean?

    Do we want relex2logic to be the linguistic->experiential bridge?


Not quite sure what you mean, here, but after using R2L to parse voice
commands that tell the robot to do something, it didn't work very well.
I had to fall back to pre-R2L raw data to get things to work reliably.

I also struggled to deal with "grounded knowledge" -- knowledge about
how to move arms, make facial expressions, and relate that to the words
being said. So, for this R2L fell far short, and something much more
needs to be done.  I've got only vague mutalble ideas at the moment, and
a working prototype, but that's all.

    Or does relex2logic is supposed to do something else?


convert only some (but not all) sentences into a classical-logic form,
suitable for reasoning?  I say "not all" because many sentences don't
seem to fit into the strictures of classical logic.  (poetry, for
example -- e.g. Feng Tang's recent translations of Rabindranath Tagore.
. Heh)

--linas


    Nil



        ben


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