ty, linas for this resource! To me it looks like they do not have and never had an idea about how to do it right...
Seems they hoped that something intelligent could emerge form a knowledge base just if it is big enough. IMHO this is completely worng. The possibility of emergence exists just if the space in which this emergence occures contains the ability of auto organisation (not self organisation, because at this stage there is no self that could do organisation). Am Dienstag, 16. August 2016 23:12:32 UTC+2 schrieb linas: > > So, > ... the final analysis of what it did wrong is something else that it did > wrong? Sigh. > > --linas > > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> He's focusing on micro-level things they did wrong, but not >> confronting the possibility that making a huge handcoded KB is just >> the wrong thing to be doing... >> >> For instance he notes they have had to add 75 kinds of "in" to handle >> different sorts of "in" relationship ... but doesn't question whether >> it might be smarter to have the system instead learn various shades of >> "in", which could allow it to learn 1000s of context-specific senses >> not just 75 ... >> >> ben >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Linas Vepstas <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> > The below is an old presentation, from 2009, but its the first I've >> seen of >> > it. Its long, I have not read it yet. However, I suspect that it >> probably >> > says good things (I hope; else that would be something else that CYC did >> > wrong...) >> > >> > >> http://c4i.gmu.edu/oic09/papers/Mistakes%20Were%20Made%20OIC%202009%20keynote.pdf >> > >> > Everyone working on opencog theory should probably read it and memorize >> it >> > and apply those lessons to the things we do. >> > >> > Thanks to Lukasz Stafiniak for pointing this out. >> > >> > --linas >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "opencog" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA369vqLVG7xEx5vVS%2BASqtaKMNSVBc7S3rdxdU8gGgEFOQ%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is >> currently struggling to form... >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "opencog" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBfej%2Bn9u6%3DSjVcZ5JOUjHo%3DG86EVRMiqu9PNP0SRXyTyg%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/662ea72f-bab2-4b2a-8adf-69280bf322c7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
