If only we were actually close enough to AGI that we really did need to worry about this... Just consider this doing our part to give MIRI enough fear-mongering fuel to keep their fund-raising going... ;-)
All the Best, Matt On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > hah, that's a pretty good point -- I guess we don't want the "AGI > Exterminator" meme getting too prominent, though it might lead to a > funky "Naked Lunch" movie sequel ... (Burroughs meets Cronenberg > meets Schwarzenegger -- just what the world needs!!) > > ... > > We could replace the sequence > > -- insects > -- poison > > with > > -- human biology > -- robots > > and see if it comes up with "cyborgs" (as something suggested by both > biology and robots)... and then for a distractor we could use > > -- human biology > -- robots > -- quantum theory > > (using "quantum theory" just to have something that will have > relatively little intersection with either humans or robots...) > > I'd rather have people afraid of quantum cyborgs than of giant AGI > cockroach-people exterminating everyone with cans of femtotech-powered > uber-RAID or whatever ;p .... > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Ivan Vodišek <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear OpenCog group, > > > > I think it would be better if you choose some more altruistic example, > when > > you go public with this. Like connecting a disease with a cure in > medicine, > > or alerting humanity for problems about polluting the Earth by unsolvable > > materials, or running out of the oil resources that only cause wars > anyway, > > or something else. I think there must be a better use than showing off an > > "intelligent" killing machine. I mean something really influent, smart > and > > ambitious, decent of a unit that should overpass us by intelligence. > > > > Thank you for your time, > > Ivan > > > > 2017-01-04 9:17 GMT+01:00 Ben Goertzel <[email protected]>: > >> > >> Misgana etc., > >> > >> Summarizing our discussion in the office today... > >> > >> 1) > >> Load ConceptNet and WordNet into the Atomspace (this should take many > >> GB but there are instances on AWS with loads of GB of RAM) > >> > >> 2) > >> Experiment A) > >> -- feed the system 10 articles on insects to read > >> -- feed the system 5 articles on poisons to read [but not on > >> insecticide -- other kinds of poisons] > >> -- see if insecticide-related Atoms pop up in the Attentional Focus > >> (they should) > >> > >> 3) > >> Experiment B1) > >> -- feed the system 10 articles on insects to read > >> -- feed the system 5 articles on poisons to read [but not on > >> insecticide -- other kinds of poisons] > >> -- feed the system one article on insects > >> > >> Experiment B2) > >> -- feed the system 10 articles on insects to read > >> -- feed the system 5 articles on poisons to read [but not on > >> insecticide -- other kinds of poisons] > >> -- feed the system one article on cars > >> > >> > >> Here what we want to observe is whether in B1, the switch of attention > >> from poisons back to insects, is faster than in B2, the switch of > >> attention from poisons to cars > >> > >> 4) > >> Now, take this same Atomspace with ConceptNet and WordNet in it, and > >> load in Simple English Wikipedia. The goal is not to have the system > >> remember SEW, but rather to have it build HebbianLinks based on the > >> SEW articles it is reading. We can have the Forgetting agent run, so > >> that the Atoms read from prior SEW articles will be forgotten to make > >> room for the Atoms from newly read SEW articles.... (i.e. the new > >> sentences from SEW articles will have high STI but low LTI, whereas > >> the Atoms from WordNet and ConceptNet will have high LTI and thus be > >> unlikely to get forgotten...) > >> > >> Then, re-run experiments A and B on this Atomspace with all the > >> HebbianLinks in it > >> > >> An interesting parameter to play with here, is the amount of STI > >> spreading that goes along HebbianLinks versus other links > >> > >> This gives a chance to play with the role of weak links in stabilizing > >> networks, as discussed e.g. in the excellent book > >> > >> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Weak-Links-Universal-Stability- > Collection/dp/3540311513 > >> > >> A hypothesis is that the presence of the weak HebbianLinks in the > >> Atomspace will cause the behavior on experiments A and B to be better > >> (i.e. more insecticide stuff in the AF in experiment A; more rapid > >> switch back to insects in experiment B) ... > >> > >> .... > >> > >> These experiments should help us tune ECAN to work sensibly on large, > >> moderately messy Atomspaces ... and from here we should be able to > >> move on to using ECAN to help provide guidance to PLN for common-sense > >> inferences... > >> > >> -- Ben > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ben Goertzel, PhD > >> http://goertzel.org > >> > >> “I tell my students, when you go to these meetings, see what direction > >> everyone is headed, so you can go in the opposite direction. Don’t > >> polish the brass on the bandwagon.” – V. S. Ramachandran > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "opencog" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBdEaKTCOQ- > tD1uhA45M6DF8hizwHHE5DvDmh0BCN-UNnw%40mail.gmail.com. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "opencog" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAB5%3Dj6U%2B% > 2BT6ZjFPpo44JigGD5K4YJQFp0D5FSiW%2BdtdXDHnw_A%40mail.gmail.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > “I tell my students, when you go to these meetings, see what direction > everyone is headed, so you can go in the opposite direction. Don’t > polish the brass on the bandwagon.” – V. S. Ramachandran > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/opencog/CACYTDBcgVsJLYz7%2BRUNbQiJdzC4t339StJsBrzWoytuo > vA9r8Q%40mail.gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAPE4pjAeRRJCTFw3-drRFptvfxokdep-DwVc01RcLp4Yetm8gQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
