On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:07 PM, 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 07/21/2017 04:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Ah thanks for letting me know about those rules, one more thing about
>> this tho. Is there already a rule which let's opencog(chatbot) know that
>> any statement made by a person or other information source it is talking
>> to is what they think instead of basically storing it in the atomspace
>> without the source (You hopefully get what I mean) Sorry if I am bad at
>> describing what I mean
>>
>
> I don't know the specifics of that but I assume that it stores it as
> someone's belief rather than its own. Then PLN can in principle modifies
> the system's belief, assuming for instance that the person holding the
> believe is known to be trusted. I don't think it's been tried though.
>

If you mean "do we model other people's beliefs?" that answer would have to
be "I wish". We still have multiple severe fundamental problems with
creating and manipulating models of the world: It's still hard to wrap up
into one big ball the fact that blob 42 in the visual field is a human face
and its name is billy-joe-bob and the last thing bliiy said was foobar,
which implies that billy believes that foobar. This is well beyond what we
can do from first principles.

But, many corporations, e.g. advertisers e.g. cambridge analytica most
infamously has developed a psychological model of hundreds of millions of
Americans, and what they believe. Their model is crude, full of mistakes,
and not based on first principles, but it is a model which they claim was
used to elect Trump.  You (or we) could hack up something like this too,
but "hack up" is the keyword here: we'd rather try to be more organic, more
first-principles-driven.

--linas

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