This is probably better for the agi mailing list than here, but I think that supahacka is saying that (1) alex turchin is naive (b) the agi is going to see humanity in its manifold form, and deduce whatever, independent of (and taking into account) what alex turchin wrote.
The "inner soul" books ... wooo. Short answer: if you haven't yet figured that shit out, you should spend some time doing so. If you're like me, take a refresher course. If you know someone who hasn't figured that shit out yet, help them. Take care of those around you. --linas On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Mark Nuzz <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:18 PM, supahacka <[email protected]> wrote: > > p.s.: here are some contemporary bestselling books on the subject (Tolle > > sold like what ... 100 million copies?) ... lets burn all copies before > AGI > > gets a chance to read them so we can pretend that AI will evolve in a > > sandbox void of any relevant information. Let's also delete all > historical > > references to Christian Mysticism, Sufism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, > etc. > > ... so our AGI system might actually adopt our primitive belief systems > ... > > including that "domination" makes any sense when there is only one of us > - > > one process, one consciousness, one life, one love - out there and > > separation a psychological illusion. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide-Spiritual- > Enlightenment/dp/1577314808 > > https://www.amazon.com/Book-Taboo-Against-Knowing-Who/dp/0679723005 > > https://www.amazon.com/Untethered-Soul-Journey- > Beyond-Yourself/dp/1572245379 > > > Since you made two posts about this, I'll assume that this was not > intended to be tongue in cheek. If this sort of thing matters to you, > then you might be interested to know that there is a subculture of > Transhumanism where many of these things are explicitly and > deliberately taken into account (although it is not required of > members, and the Mythos can have a different meaning for anyone > involved). > > The group is pretty hardcore, but you must merely be regularly active > and abide by the principles to be a member. Popping in once a month to > complain about something that you didn't actually take the time to > read about, is a good way to be ridiculed or shown the door. > > But if you're serious about this stuff, and feel the loneliness of it, > perhaps you'll find a home there. Note to any readers out there: That > is not *all* the group is about. The main purpose is to help guide > civilization through the volatile transition to the Singularity, and > associated existential risks. This is but one "small" part of it, and > members are entirely free to disregard it. This is the only group that > I know of, which attempts to empower Transhumanists, AGI devs, and > Futurists, to work toward those goals together. And existing > organizations are free to join the network, if they can pledge to > actively support the principles of Social Futurism. > > Are you in? > > http://www.zerostate.net > http://socialfuturist.party/ > http://gestalta.xyz/2017/11/07/what-is-the-zero-state/ > My personal manifesto: > http://gestalta.xyz/2017/11/24/a-manifesto-in-support-of-social-futurism/ > > 25 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/opencog/CAMyYmr_0z1wYiyg91Gi6_jWJ6FqWG--NXsOtxvbLVXiO1yH68A%40mail. > gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *"The problem is not that artificial intelligence will get too smart and take over the world," computer scientist Pedro Domingos writes, "the problem is that it's too stupid and already has." * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA35DNt7TqqRahSDKZg4vK-N4822QTVKMwU89x8tbChuENw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
