Thank you Linus. .. and the other properties?

Michael.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Linas Vepstas <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Are there particular components or combinations of components in the
>> architecture which
>> are responsible for providing these individual properties. For example
>> observation means
>> taking information from the world and storing it (presumably as Atoms).
>>
>
> The robot has a super-crude vision system. It's nearly blind. It can see
> faces, locate them in 3D space.  It has an Intel realsense thingy that
> returns human body and hand position data, but its .. crude and
> inadequate.  The realsense is not hooked up to the atomspace at the moment.
> Perhaps we could steal some code or ideas from CogSketch or QSRlib.
> (google those)
>
> Sound: we have speech-to-text, via google.  It sort-of-ish works sort-of
> if you have a good microphone, and no background noise. Otherwise, its not
> so good.  It cannot tell if you are whispering, shouting, angry, serene. It
> cannot tell if there is an audience that is clapping, booing. It cannot
> tell if its in a crowded room or an empty room.
>
> Turns out sensory input is a really hard problem.
>
>
>> Coordination means
>> making inferences (creating new atoms) based on existing or newly stored
>> observations.
>>
>
> Yeah, got a bunch of these subsystems, all doing different things.
>
>
>> Reaction would be a component that gives a reflex response (high
>> reliability) to incoming
>> information.
>>
>
> Yeah, we call that the "chatbot" it doesn't think at all. It just does
> bogus scripted responses.
>
>
>> Deliberation means a component responsible for generating actions that
>> pursue goals,
>> and so forth...
>>
>
> We've got parts scattered about for that, partly assembled and partly
> disassembled.  Its PLN and the rule engine and attention allocation and
> other bits.
>
> --linas
>
>>
>> Kindly advise.
>>
>> Michael Miller
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 6:17:51 PM UTC-8, Ben Goertzel wrote:
>>>
>>> If you  mean, which of these is the OpenCog system *intended* to be
>>> able to demonstrate, and can theoretically manifest according to the
>>> design, then -- definitely all of them
>>>
>>> If you  mean, which of these can some openCog based system now
>>> runnable demonstrate, it's a much more complicated answer, because a
>>> lot of these things can now be done but in various limited ways, and I
>>> don't have time to type all the details right now...
>>>
>>> Over the next few months here in HK we are making a renewed push at
>>> getting OpenCog to usefully control the Sophia robot (we did this sort
>>> of work a year ago and then paused it to focus on various internal
>>> improvements) ... once this work is all integrated and effectively
>>> functional, then we will have a system doing all of these things in a
>>> limited way in the context of controlling the humanoid robot head/arms
>>> with speech and vision input and speech and movement output....   Nil
>>> has finished a working PLN forward/backward chainer and we need to do
>>> a little more work to connect it properly with OpenPsi, and then to
>>> get all this working properly with our various visual perception tools
>>> ... once this is done all the things you ask will finally work in a
>>> simple way with the robot, and we'll then work on making it more
>>> complex/subtle/intelligent...
>>>
>>> ben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Piaget Modeler
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I'm a newbie to Open cog, and I have some questions.
>>> >
>>> > Of the following properties, which would you say the Open Cog system
>>> > exhibits:
>>> >
>>> > observation (ability to receive input),
>>> > coordination (ability to create inferences),
>>> > reminding (ability to recall observations),
>>> > reaction (ability to respond to incoming stimuli),
>>> > deliberation (ability to pursue goals),
>>> > motivation (ability to formulate goals based on needs),
>>> > simulation (ability to create forward models),
>>> > meta-control (ability to dynamically adjust its own processes at
>>> run-time),
>>> > regulation (ability to correct or reinforce behaviors),
>>> > compensation (ability to cancel or neutralize undesired outcomes),
>>> > experimentation (ability to try new actions to gain knowledge),
>>> > discovery (ability to formulate and test hypotheses),
>>> > consolidation (ability to forget or compress information).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Kindly advise.
>>> >
>>> > Michael Miller (Piaget Modeler)
>>> >
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