Hi Nil, Fantastic, thank you for all of your help and great work; I'll be testing the new pattern miner tomorrow morning then!
Johannes On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 6:27:31 PM UTC, Nil wrote: > > Hi Johannes, > > On 1/3/19 4:36 PM, Johannes Castner wrote: > > Hi Nil, > > > > I thought to adopt the one for the GO.scm as in this example? > > https://github.com/opencog/test-datasets/tree/master/go > > It seems that code is more recent > > https://github.com/opencog/agi-bio/tree/master/knowledge-import > > > I have not yet seriously worked on it as I need to first be sure that > > the patternminer works on my system and I haven't been able to get > > something very simple to work as expected yet. I'll be tinkering again > \ > > I should mention that the new pattern miner is already quite stable. If > you can install opencog on your system, it should work. > > > ...Of course I'd love to share the results and what I'm finding with > > you; it'd be great if I can in some ways contribute to your awesome > > It would also be of interest to the AGI-Bio team. > > > system! Does my plan sound reasonable? In terms of timing; I really > > need to have a working paper using this system ready before April 1st, > > so that I can distribute my dissertation to my committee. This means > > that I'd love to have the results as soon as possible; preferably before > > the end of January if that is possible? > > That seems doable. I should start implementing surprisingness next week. > The time it takes depends on how it is implemented, I'm aiming at > something as general as possible but might also start with something > more specialized, I mean I'll do my best so you have something that > works on time. > > Meanwhile if you can run the pattern miner on your data just to make > sure it works so far, maybe even verify at hand that it can find > surprising patterns, etc, would be very good. > > Nil > > > > > Johannes > > > > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:52:09 AM UTC, Nil wrote: > > > > On 1/3/19 11:37 AM, Johannes Castner wrote: > > > Hi Nil, > > > > > > Does the new pattern miner support surprisingness yet? > > > > Nope :-( > > > > That's the last missing bit really. > > > > > That's what I'm hoping to make use of. > > > > Great. > > > > I might have recommended you to use the old pattern miner in the > > meantime but I'm afraid it's gonna be too buggy. And implementing > > surprisingness in the new pattern miner is pretty much my next task, > > so... > > > > What is your timing? When do you need this? > > > > If I understand correctly you want to mine patterns in > > > > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo> > > > > > > > and I suppose you already have some scripts to turn that into atoms. > > Could you share that script? we might want to add it to > > > > https://github.com/opencog/external-tools > > <https://github.com/opencog/external-tools> > > > > and maybe turn your use-case into a pattern miner example, that > > would be > > great. > > > > Nil > > > > > > > > Johannes > > > > > > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:07:25 AM UTC, Nil wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > you should use the new pattern miner, see > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/opencog/learning/miner/README.md > > > < > https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/opencog/learning/miner/README.md> > > > > > > > > > < > https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/opencog/learning/miner/README.md > > > < > https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/opencog/learning/miner/README.md>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, what doc did you follow to get to that command? I'm > > asking so I > > > can > > > redirect the user to the new pattern miner. > > > > > > Nil > > > > > > On 1/1/19 3:57 PM, Johannes Castner wrote: > > > > Hi Nil, > > > > > > > > Thank you, that did that trick. Now I run: > > > > > > > > guile> (pm-run-patternminer) > > > > > > > > Yet no matter what knowledge base I run this on it never > > seems to > > > find any interesting patterns. What could be the cause of > that? > > > > > > > > Johannes > > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 9:43:13 PM UTC, Nil wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Johannes, > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by compilation but it is > > > recommended to > > > > disable guile compilation as it makes loading large > > data set > > > > impractical. For that do as follows > > > > > > > > guile --no-auto-compile -l my-data.scm > > > > > > > > where my-data.scm is the file containing your > > atomspace data. > > > > > > > > Hope it helps, let me know otherwise. > > > > > > > > Nil > > > > > > > > On 12/30/18 3:02 PM, Johannes Castner wrote: > > > > > I'm quite interested in using the pattern miner for > > the last > > > > chapter of > > > > > my dissertation and so I'm excited to work with it > > and try > > > things > > > > out. > > > > > However, it seems as though the compilation of even > > small > > > test > > > > knowledge > > > > > bases takes a lot of memory? For serious data > > sets, such > > > as the > > > > > environmental ontology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo> > > > > > > > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo> > > > > > > > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo > > < > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/master/envo.obo>>>) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it always crashes. 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