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The local/remote/backed-up distinction is a heritage of 1960's-1990's
tech and consumer-grade hardware.  It's not a bad distinction, it's
just .. blurry, slightly archaic, rapidly-changing and we don't want
to bake it into any AtomSpace specifications.
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Yeah, fair enough, however it's still a better approximation than "one
big undifferentiated Atomspace blob"  ;-)

Indeed we would like the core Atomese language to allow more nuanced
distinctions, while allowing local/remote/backed-up distinctions to be
easily  made when useful...


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:35 PM Linas Vepstas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:40 AM Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> have three different statuses: Local, Remote (in RAM on some other
>> machine in Distributed Atomspace) or BackedUp (disk).
>
>
> The distinctions between these can become rather blurry.  The point of 
> disk-backup is to not lose data, but if your data is in RAM on a remote 
> server, that might be enough. High-end database machines have battery-backed 
> disk drives, so that a powerloss to the building does not lose in-flight 
> transactional data.
>
> Compute centers often have waterfalls of 100-gigabit optical fibers splashing 
> out the back of the CPU's, going to the far end of the room, and attaching to 
> RAM and/or disks there -- this is not new; in 1995, the infiniband storage 
> interconnect ran tcp/ip to disk-drives and allowed remote-DMA access to RAM.  
>  The now-defunct blue-rivers had fiber-optics going straight into the CPU 
> chip itself, because this used less power than toggling electrical bits on a 
> metal pin, thus saving on power and cooling. But it also meant that the RAM 
> could be as far away as your fiber-optic cable is long.  The commercial 
> storage market has some really wild stuff out there that addresses common 
> issues faced by the market.  The local/remote/backed-up distinction is a 
> heritage of 1960's-1990's tech and consumer-grade hardware.  It's not a bad 
> distinction, it's just .. blurry, slightly archaic, rapidly-changing and we 
> don't want to bake it into any AtomSpace specifications.
>
> -- Linas
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