Ya3ni question is not to apologize or to be right. I didn't jump in the discussion just to be right, I wasn't sure how to interpret the outputs btw and was expecting someone more tech-savvy than me from this list to make sense of the incoherent stuff I was obtaining. I jumped in the discussion because we do need to act in a neat way, and this time the whole was just not clear. What happens if every time there is a technical flaw we accuse the government without substantial arguments? What credibility for claimed professionals and tech experts who aren't able to get their tools properly? And what if next time we are right but previous flawed cases have made us loose any credibility?
I think there must be a better coordination to avoid such crap spreading over (https://twitter.com/hateVodafoneEG/status/303116139637112832 + hystery getting over https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=openvpn&src=typd). I do care that people here who are willing to step forward and bring a constructive action both in terms of outreach to the public and advocacy with officials do the stuff right. Thus, claiming there is a targeted blocking of particular services as a follow-up of govt's decision to block Google (which is totally wrong, btw; and also, there was an official declaration today saying Youtube ban cannot be enforced...) makes us appear like first-year undergrads having seen a CLI for the first time in their life and thinking they are the kings of da world. Ain't willing of being patronizing so don't get me wrong. It is simply a feedback from someone who has not only observed but also done such stuff & failed sometimes. You are the tech-savvy people who know how to assess this kind of things. Act as such :) Wishing you a nice evening, Rayna 2013/2/17 Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> > well I guess I owe Rayna a big apology after a long twitter conversation. > this showed up she was right from the beginning. > > --- > Ahmed Mekkawy > Founder | CTO > www.SpirulaSystems.com > On Feb 17, 2013 7:45 PM, "Ahmed El-Ezabi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well it was worth seeing how concerned people are to such matters. >> Now back to open egypt... >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Ahmed, for repeating all over again what has been said and >>> tested from elsewhere out of Egypt... :) >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/2/17 Ahmed El-Ezabi <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Again everybody, this seems not to be related with anything in Egypt >>>> >>>> tcptraceroute openvpn.net 80 >>>> Selected device eth0, address 192.168.1.3, port 56331 for outgoing >>>> packets >>>> Tracing the path to openvpn.net (67.228.116.150) on TCP port 80 >>>> (http), 30 hops max >>>> 1 192.168.1.1 0.336 ms 0.168 ms 0.190 ms >>>> 2 NASR4-R02C-C-EG (163.121.171.51) 10.730 ms 9.776 ms 9.263 ms >>>> 3 host-163.121.211.134.tedata.net (163.121.211.134) 9.282 ms 9.686 >>>> ms 11.975 ms >>>> 4 host-163.121.211.134.tedata.net (163.121.211.134) 9.995 ms >>>> 11.950 ms 9.753 ms >>>> 5 host-163.121.229.37.tedata.net (163.121.229.37) 13.972 ms 12.126 >>>> ms 12.242 ms >>>> 6 10.42.0.3 11.237 ms 10.275 ms 10.956 ms >>>> 7 10.32.8.107 10.055 ms 11.950 ms 9.988 ms >>>> 8 213.242.116.13 122.859 ms 66.891 ms 66.952 ms >>>> 9 * * * >>>> 10 ae-23-23.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.126) 171.805 ms >>>> 147.086 ms 147.050 ms >>>> 11 ae-42-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.54) 149.887 ms >>>> 150.062 ms 149.599 ms >>>> 12 ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 146.399 ms >>>> 146.370 ms 146.533 ms >>>> 13 * ae-2-70.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net (4.69.149.82) 144.499 ms >>>> 145.212 ms >>>> 14 SOFTLAYER-T.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net (4.53.116.66) 147.304 ms >>>> 150.459 ms 148.490 ms >>>> 15 ae7.bbr02.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com (173.192.18.195) 144.878 ms >>>> 149.512 ms 147.478 ms >>>> 16 ae1.bbr02.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.155) 165.508 ms >>>> 164.161 ms 163.520 ms >>>> 17 ae1.bbr02.cs01.den01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.131) 195.270 ms >>>> 193.631 ms 196.005 ms >>>> 18 ae7.bbr01.cs01.den01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.168) 198.753 ms >>>> 198.302 ms 198.470 ms >>>> 19 ae0.bbr01.wb01.sea02.networklayer.com (173.192.18.144) 331.605 ms >>>> 223.560 ms 226.579 ms >>>> 20 ae0.dar01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.199) 225.111 ms >>>> 225.040 ms 240.154 ms >>>> 21 po1.fcr01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (67.228.118.134) 222.635 ms >>>> 224.517 ms 223.403 ms >>>> 22 * * * >>>> 23 * * * >>>> >>>> So the connection drops after leaving Egypt >>>> >>>> So maybe because we are very alert in this regard that any unreachable >>>> website puts us in a panic mode :-D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Ahmed El-Ezabi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just came home and checked, the issue is local, here is the result >>>>> from a US based server: >>>>> >>>>> telnet openvpn.net 80 >>>>> Trying 67.228.116.150... >>>>> Connected to openvpn.net (67.228.116.150). >>>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>>> >>>>> Connection closed by foreign host. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of course the connection is closed because I sent a non http request >>>>> (CR) >>>>> >>>>> While locally from a TEData DSL: >>>>> telnet openvpn.net 80 >>>>> Trying 67.228.116.150... >>>>> >>>>> telnet: connect to address 67.228.116.150: Connection timed out >>>>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out >>>>> >>>>> Sill unable to determine the exact reason >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Muhammad Emam >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Rayna, >>>>>> Would you please let me know which ISP are you using? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Additional info: not sure what the issue is but one can connect to >>>>>>> openvpn.net sometimes. When I ssh to some virtual machine, it >>>>>>> allows me to wget ... or not. Also, sometimes the wget works, sometimes >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> doesn't. The IP address that sends the last hop response (the traceroute >>>>>>> log) is openvpn.net home so to speak (its IP is 67.228.116.150). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So -- at least, thus far -- it does not seem to be the govt blocking >>>>>>> it: it just has issues on its end, in other countries... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rayna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/2/17 Rayna <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not sure the traceroute tells you something about blocking. Fact is >>>>>>>> a traceroute with various options & through different ports (80, 22) >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> Paris stops at exactly the same point (somewhere within the US, >>>>>>>> guessing >>>>>>>> around Seattle). They may just have issues there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rayna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/2/17 Mostafa Hussein <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can't connect to openvpn.net .. connection times out. However >>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>> my traceroute, I am using Noor DSL. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not an expert in this but seems that traceroute reaches a >>>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>>> in Dallas, Texas and the dies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> M. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ traceroute openvpn.net >>>>>>>>> traceroute to openvpn.net (67.228.116.150), 30 hops max, 60 byte >>>>>>>>> packets >>>>>>>>> 1 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 3.866 ms 3.832 ms 3.816 ms >>>>>>>>> 2 bng.rams.ca (217.139.253.19) 41.483 ms 41.476 ms 46.727 ms >>>>>>>>> 3 172.17.10.98 (172.17.10.98) 67.476 ms 67.478 ms 172.17.10.102 >>>>>>>>> (172.17.10.102) 67.422 ms >>>>>>>>> 4 host-41.33.173.69.tedata.net (41.33.173.69) 67.415 ms >>>>>>>>> 67.393 ms 67.339 ms >>>>>>>>> 5 213.242.116.13 (213.242.116.13) 98.646 ms 98.664 ms >>>>>>>>> 213.242.116.9 (213.242.116.9) 104.711 ms >>>>>>>>> 6 * * * >>>>>>>>> 7 ae-23-23.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.126) 219.404 ms >>>>>>>>> ae-21-21.ebr2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.143.118) 222.331 ms >>>>>>>>> ae-23-23.ebr2.paris1.level3.net (4.69.143.126) 228.058 ms >>>>>>>>> 8 ae-42-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.54) 229.909 ms >>>>>>>>> ae-43-43.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.137.58) 231.914 ms >>>>>>>>> 235.401 ms >>>>>>>>> 9 ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.154) 237.785 >>>>>>>>> ms >>>>>>>>> 243.621 ms 247.265 ms >>>>>>>>> 10 ae-3-80.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net (4.69.149.146) 255.760 >>>>>>>>> ms >>>>>>>>> ae-2-70.edge3.washington4.level3.net (4.69.149.82) 259.259 ms >>>>>>>>> ae-1-60.edge3.washington4.level3.net (4.69.149.18) 262.997 ms >>>>>>>>> 11 softlayer-t.edge3.washington4.level3.net (4.53.116.66) >>>>>>>>> 264.969 ms >>>>>>>>> 266.859 ms 175.538 ms >>>>>>>>> 12 ae7.bbr02.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com (173.192.18.195) >>>>>>>>> 175.523 ms >>>>>>>>> 175.510 ms 222.325 ms >>>>>>>>> 13 ae1.bbr02.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.155) >>>>>>>>> 228.545 ms >>>>>>>>> 233.709 ms 239.805 ms >>>>>>>>> 14 ae1.bbr02.cs01.den01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.131) >>>>>>>>> 248.538 ms >>>>>>>>> 248.575 ms 248.562 ms >>>>>>>>> 15 ae7.bbr01.cs01.den01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.168) >>>>>>>>> 248.508 ms >>>>>>>>> 253.250 ms 253.249 ms >>>>>>>>> 16 ae0.bbr01.wb01.sea02.networklayer.com (173.192.18.144) >>>>>>>>> 262.679 ms >>>>>>>>> 262.703 ms 262.690 ms >>>>>>>>> 17 ae0.dar01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.199) >>>>>>>>> 236.509 ms >>>>>>>>> ae0.dar02.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.159) 236.474 ms >>>>>>>>> ae0.dar01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (173.192.18.199) 240.017 ms >>>>>>>>> 18 po2.fcr01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (67.228.118.138) >>>>>>>>> 234.613 ms >>>>>>>>> po1.fcr01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com (67.228.118.134) 244.078 ms >>>>>>>>> 237.931 ms >>>>>>>>> 19 * * * >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>> 30 * * * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ahmed Kamal >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > meh! but that doesn't even make much sense, as openvpn.net is >>>>>>>>> not a public vpn endpoint >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> openvpn.net is blocked in Egypt. this can mean lots of >>>>>>>>> things.. larger blocking coming? 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