Hi Anas, Sounds like we are in agreement mostly(I have my reservations around ubuntu/linux to be considered as a TCB but it depends on what security context are we looking). I wish I could have participated in the open mind event :( sadly I can't fly to Egypt on such a short notice. This would be another thing that can put in the backlog; events planned and then we schedule what is possible during the iteration, whatever the iteration is. I think we need a bit more than a mailing list, so maybe a website where we can have some materials, documentation, backlog and in progress items. Ideally we could try to have a planning day per iteration, and a retrospective.
There is an alternative approach, which is work load based: we enumerate all the things we want to do , and then we say per person we have a limit of X items in parallel. whoever has less than X items can pull items from the backlog till he reaches X then work on the items and then when they are done they are moved over to done. I have seen/used both methods, the later often referred to as Kanban is useful in interrupt driven items: there is no time limit and there is not a great dependency between the items. Either methods would work, but the point is that you listed for example several parallel efforts, including and event , a book printing, meetings, etc. which I had no idea were in progress. I could be blamed because I am the newcomer and maybe this information was available in the mailing list archive. My overall feeling is that mailing lists are not good medium to archive and organize information that are not Q/A or Problem/Solution type thing. If we have a domain for OpenEgypt that would help both internally to organize , and externally to communicate a crisp and clear message to the government, universities etc. I also had a question/idea about a physical space for open egypt, where we can maybe have a small library, a small lab, and an area for discussions and presentation. does such thing exist? I would be willing to support this effort within my means of course. Regards Mohamed On Saturday, February 23, 2013 1:11:17 PM UTC+1, Anas Emad wrote: > > thanks Mohamed > > i suggest to work as open movement , that we should work parallel Plan > > > - top-> down, > - Government > > i believe that what should open egypt focus on it, open egypt now have a > lot of open source experts more that any organization or communities, ... > Government will not listen to volunteers or depend on their work.... they > need Open egypt and that exactly happen now ... > after our last movement > > > - Universities -Top >down- and down>top > > can we organize meeting or presentation with all department managers at > (Universities > - specifically faculty of engineering and cis Hassebat ) to present the > value of Open source to Egypt and Case Studies , ... etc > > *Who's can do that ? * > we should do everything with our-self the main goal of this to inspire > who's already have open source mind from universities professors to take > action ... that may be talk about make open source mandatory at some > departments some Egyptian Universities > > *can Add it to Open Egypt Agenda ?* > > - Bottom->Up, > > that what try ubuntu eg do it, we try to spreed ubuntu to students at > faculty of engineering and cis Hassebat > > and spreed ubuntu to normal users everywhere, online and offline > > - mandatory, > > i don't believe this strategy.. this Free Software , and our philosophy do > make it free to learn what they want > > - collaborative, > > that we already start doing at .. this week at Cairo university ... EgJug > and Ubuntu eg and fedora Community will make one event > called Open mind > https://www.facebook.com/events/481542855215492/481825581853886/ > > > Notes : > > http://itwadi.com/node/2492 > > http://www.simplyubuntu.com/ > > i want to print this book and another open source books ... how can you > help at this > > > and welcome at our team > > > ------------------------------ > أنس عماد الدين > فريق قفير > http://www.qafeer.com > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I have recently joined the group, after learning about it from Ahmed >> Mekkawy. You can see my profile at >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/unixmechanic >> I am very excited about this group, I strongly believe in its mission, >> and I am excited to see that there is even a level of reciprocation in the >> post-revolution Egypt albeit not where we need it to be. I think we have a >> tremendous opportunity AND responsibility to bring the FOSS philosophy to >> Egypt and there are so many venues, ways and approaches(top->down, >> Bottom->Up, mandatory, collaborative,etc.etc.) and there are so many >> motives to do this for Egypt and her people(economic at different levels, >> nationalistic, humanitarian level, etc). I think most on the list would >> agree with these statements. >> >> What I have noticed so far though is a bit of dispersed efforts, and many >> threads that or may not be related. we may need to do better >> categorization, or some ITIL guys would want to do a process review or >> something but as people who believe in rapid and disruptive technologies I >> would propose we go AGILE with this effort. >> >> There are certainly high level, abstract, multi-year goals that we all >> want, but it is the conversion of these EPICs to smaller , crispier, more >> concrete goals that would help us keep moving. Humans often want to see a >> ROI: we, or the government, or 3rd party institutions want to see something >> done and feel that there is progress. If we can organize our efforts a >> little better, write a few EPIC goals that could be long running, then >> start breaking them down to smaller stories or tasks and take those smaller >> bits, and put them in an iteration and work hard to try to achieve them and >> at each iteration , take some time to review our progress , our pitfalls >> and how we can improve in the next iteration and continuously keep our >> backlog of ideas so that near the end of iteration we could re-prioritize >> our next iteration. Keep focused, determined and have small enough targets >> to achieve in a short period. >> >> I will stop here, and hope to hear from everyone then we could discuss >> how we can organize this gigantic effort, and start building our EPICs and >> who can do what, what tools to use and so on. >> >> Thank you for all the efforts put so far, and I hope I could contribute >> to a better , more open Egypt. >> >> Regards >> Mohamed >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenEgypt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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